DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
Has anyone made changes to a PR System humidifier chamber so that it holds more water?
I realize that the water level cannot safely be raised but wonder if some sort of external extension could be fabricated.
It would have to be a sealed container and there should (perhaps?) be connections above and below the water line to equalize the pressure.
Beyond that, any ideas?
I realize that the water level cannot safely be raised but wonder if some sort of external extension could be fabricated.
It would have to be a sealed container and there should (perhaps?) be connections above and below the water line to equalize the pressure.
Beyond that, any ideas?
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DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
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DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
The thought has crossed my mind... I work in a hospital and on our ventilators and bipaps we use a bag of sterile water that drips into the heated chamber... Kind of like an IV bag, so that it never runs out of water (at least until the liter bag is empty).
I've thought that it would be cool if something like this could be rigged to my PRS1, but never actually looked that indepth at it.
I've thought that it would be cool if something like this could be rigged to my PRS1, but never actually looked that indepth at it.
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
Is the heated chamber just a pass-over chamber on intake to the device?
Or is it in the circuit so the air is pressurized?
Or is it in the circuit so the air is pressurized?
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Mask: Oracle HC452 Oral CPAP Mask |
Humidifier: DreamStation Heated Humidifier |
Additional Comments: EverFlo Q 3.0 Liters O2 PR DSX900 ASV |
Oracle 452 Lessons Learned Updated
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
I don't have anything meaningful to add, I'm just curious why you want this. I have a different system but even just putting a small amount of water in the chamber I never run out. Are you consuming a lot more water?
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
Yes, my humidifier runs out almost every night. It holds about 11 ounces and I may be able to go through a whole night with another 3 or 4 ounces.NameGoesHere wrote:I don't have anything meaningful to add, I'm just curious why you want this. I have a different system but even just putting a small amount of water in the chamber I never run out. Are you consuming a lot more water?
People who use the Oracle mask like I do use much more water than other mask designs.
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Mask: Oracle HC452 Oral CPAP Mask |
Humidifier: DreamStation Heated Humidifier |
Additional Comments: EverFlo Q 3.0 Liters O2 PR DSX900 ASV |
Oracle 452 Lessons Learned Updated
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
You should never run out of water in one night. You may use more or less water depending on the humidity level in your room, but still... you should not run dry. Call your DME and ask for a replacement while your humidifier is being repaired.
Sheriff
Sheriff
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
This is my third machine and all did the same thing.
My setting is 5 in System One mode.
I'm reasonably sure its not defective.
My setting is 5 in System One mode.
I'm reasonably sure its not defective.
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Mask: Oracle HC452 Oral CPAP Mask |
Humidifier: DreamStation Heated Humidifier |
Additional Comments: EverFlo Q 3.0 Liters O2 PR DSX900 ASV |
Oracle 452 Lessons Learned Updated
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
DSX900 AutoSV with HC150 extra humidifier and Hibernite heated hose
Settings: EPAP Min-10.0, EPAP Max-17, PS Min-3, PS Max-10, Max Pressure-20, Rate-Auto, Biflex-1.
Sleepyhead and Encore Pro 2.21.
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
I can usually get 7.5 hours out if my tank set at "5" at 11 cm ... And my FFM Mirage Quattro ...
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
I have been wondering if it would be possible to extend the tank also.
I use the humidifier on the lowest setting (1) with the heated hose set on 2. If I fill the tank to the full line it is empty in the morning. I would like to try a higher setting on the humidifier but it will only run dry if I do.
I talked to a PR rep about the humidifier running dry and he said it was OK to slightly overfill the tank, as long as the water level is below the air inlet tube. If I fill the tank until the water touches the bottom of the air inlet tube there is about 1/8" of water over the plate in the morning.
The Encore software shows that my leaks never get into large leak territory.
Gary
I use the humidifier on the lowest setting (1) with the heated hose set on 2. If I fill the tank to the full line it is empty in the morning. I would like to try a higher setting on the humidifier but it will only run dry if I do.
I talked to a PR rep about the humidifier running dry and he said it was OK to slightly overfill the tank, as long as the water level is below the air inlet tube. If I fill the tank until the water touches the bottom of the air inlet tube there is about 1/8" of water over the plate in the morning.
The Encore software shows that my leaks never get into large leak territory.
Gary
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
You guys got me curious about the water capacities of the machines.JDS74 wrote:Yes, my humidifier runs out almost every night. It holds about 11 ounces and I may be able to go through a whole night with another 3 or 4 ounces.NameGoesHere wrote:I don't have anything meaningful to add, I'm just curious why you want this. I have a different system but even just putting a small amount of water in the chamber I never run out. Are you consuming a lot more water?
People who use the Oracle mask like I do use much more water than other mask designs.
Here's a comparison if you haven't done it yet.
As you can see, the older Respironics Legacy Series and M Series did hold more than the newer ones.
I added the S9 capacity for comparison.
Legacy Models
Water Capacity: 1 2/3 cups (400 ml) at recommended water level
M Series
Water Capacity: 1 2/3 cups (400 ml) at recommended water level
System One
Water Capacity: 1 1/3 cups (325 ml) at recommended water level
S9
Water Capacity 380 mL - To maximum fill line
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- SleepyJohn43
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
If you are comfortable with drilling the container, plumbing fittings, and the hardware aisle at Home Depot, you could connect another container to it at the bottom. The water levels in both containers will naturally equalize. In theory, you could have infinite capacity.
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Resmed S9 Autoset @7cm H2O
H5i Humidifier and heated hose
Fisher and Paykel Eson Nasal Mask
Resmed S9 Autoset @7cm H2O
H5i Humidifier and heated hose
Fisher and Paykel Eson Nasal Mask
Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
The F&P HC150 (standalone) also has a capacity of 400 ml.
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
now theres the answerWulfman... wrote:The F&P HC150 (standalone) also has a capacity of 400 ml.
Den
just add the 150 in series
next problem
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
Call Respironics and ask them if this is normal. Been there... done that...JDS74 wrote:This is my third machine and all did the same thing.
My setting is 5 in System One mode.
I'm reasonably sure its not defective.
Sheriff
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Re: DIY Humidifier Chamber Question
i am considering doing this my self. I was told by my rt to use room humidification but i have woken up and refilled my water and still ran out by morning. I don't think this old farm house will home enough humidity. Furthermore my humidity was fine but my pressure was not. Once i got my pressure increased to where it needs to be i can't keep water. It gets so bad i wake up with completely dry mouth, it's so bad i have tooth pain in the amSleepyJohn43 wrote:If you are comfortable with drilling the container, plumbing fittings, and the hardware aisle at Home Depot, you could connect another container to it at the bottom. The water levels in both containers will naturally equI'malize. In theory, you could have infinite capacity.