Is 12 breaths a minute considered weak respiratory effort?

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Re: Is 12 breaths a minute considered weak respiratory effort?

Post by Sludge » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:58 am

mgaggie wrote:Well this thread got out of control faster than the staff xmas party
OK, got it figured out now!

If one posts "techno", then nothin'.

If one posts "%#*&!#%*!!", then 10 responses.

I think I'll go back to FB.
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Re: Is 12 breaths a minute considered weak respiratory effort?

Post by mgaggie » Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:10 am

Sludge wrote:
mgaggie wrote:Well this thread got out of control faster than the staff xmas party
OK, got it figured out now!

If one posts "techno", then nothin'.

If one posts "%#*&!#%*!!", then 10 responses.

I think I'll go back to FB.
Sludge stick around the shenanigans have only just started

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Re: Is 12 breaths a minute considered weak respiratory effort?

Post by ems » Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:18 pm

mgaggie wrote:
Sludge wrote:
mgaggie wrote:Well this thread got out of control faster than the staff xmas party
OK, got it figured out now!

If one posts "techno", then nothin'.

If one posts "%#*&!#%*!!", then 10 responses.

I think I'll go back to FB.
Sludge stick around the shenanigans have only just started
Nope! I think this thread (and SWA) is on the way out, and forum members will stop posting here.
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Re: Is 12 breaths a minute considered weak respiratory effort?

Post by Madalot » Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:18 pm

ems wrote:
mgaggie wrote:
Sludge wrote:
mgaggie wrote:Well this thread got out of control faster than the staff xmas party
OK, got it figured out now!

If one posts "techno", then nothin'.

If one posts "%#*&!#%*!!", then 10 responses.

I think I'll go back to FB.
Sludge stick around the shenanigans have only just started
Nope! I think this thread (and SWA) is on the way out, and forum members will stop posting here.
SWA may stop posting in this thread and even disappear for a few weeks or months. After a brief absence, SWA will post a new thread or hijack another thread and someone will unknowingly try to help, then all this nonsense starts all over again. It's happened so many times that it's borderline humorous. I've been here long enough, seen enough and posted enough, thus why SWA has accused me of stalking.

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Re: Is 12 breaths a minute considered weak respiratory effort?

Post by chunkyfrog » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:00 pm

Staff Christmas party?
Is that how the glass got cracked on the copier?

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Re: Is 12 breaths a minute considered weak respiratory effort?

Post by mgaggie » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:54 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Staff Christmas party?
Is that how the glass got cracked on the copier?
Yep

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Re: Is 12 breaths a minute considered weak respiratory effort?

Post by ems » Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:44 pm

mgaggie wrote:
chunkyfrog wrote:Staff Christmas party?
Is that how the glass got cracked on the copier?
Yep
Actually happened where I worked... but not the copier... the large conference table in the Library!
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Re: Is 12 breaths a minute considered weak respiratory effort?

Post by Sludge » Thu Dec 19, 2013 5:26 am

chunkyfrog wrote:Staff Christmas party?
Is that how the glass got cracked on the copier?
Do you know if the "Copy" button was pressed at that moment?
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Re: Is 12 breaths a minute considered weak respiratory effort?

Post by WhiteNoise » Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:07 pm

This is an old thread, but I didn't see any responses from anyone who ever took Klonopin (clonazepam)
so I'll add my 2 cents,, I was taking Klonopin for 2+ years for sleep which it did initially help a lot.
I also have a spinal cord injury so there is paralysis involved which can be progressive. In the end
I was taking 2mg at night but not feeling the same benefit as in the beginning. For the entire time I
was taking it my breathing rate did slow, but the neurologist and pulmunologist attributed it to my
primary diagnosis not the medication. I'm not such a fan of drugs to fix things, and when my rate
was down to 4 bpm I actually had to think about breathing as though it was no longer autonomic response.

At the time when I was considering "diaphragm pacemakers" I decided to switch to Valium (easier to taper)
and wean myself off. Within 2 months of complete cessation of the Klonopin my breathing was stronger
and stabilized at 10 breaths per minute. Still a bit lower than the 17 often quoted.
Years later my oximeter shows me at 98% Oxygen levels but a higher
than normal heart rate of 90 at rest, which I can live with.

In my case it was the medicine not the condition causing the apparent breathing problem. I wonder how many other
folks are currently in this situation. It's not easy to take the plunge and disagree with the docs, but if any forum might
understand, it would be this one!

Hope this helps another,
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