Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

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Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by KenH » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:48 am

Will it hurt or change anything if I hook 2 hoses together. I need just a little more hose ( get your mind out of the gutter). I have a longer regular hose now but they do not make the slimline in a long hose ( according to my DME).

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by Bobshouse » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:27 am

Wont help if it's a climate line hose. Will probably cause a little more "rain out" if your using a humidifier. Other than that, no problems as far as pressure concerns.

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by LSAT » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:56 am

KenH wrote:Will it hurt or change anything if I hook 2 hoses together. I need just a little more hose ( get your mind out of the gutter). I have a longer regular hose now but they do not make the slimline in a long hose ( according to my DME).
You could use a regular hose...IMO it really makes no difference in your therapy. The regular hose comes in 8' and 10'

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by RandyJ » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:57 am

I think the cutoff is 10' or 12' ... as long as you don't go over that, you should still get correct pressure at the mask. (I wouldn't bank on it though, but I am a bit skeptical of using longer than standard hose.)

If you increase length and all of a sudden you see that you are having more events, that would be a clue...

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by KenH » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:57 am

Thanks for the reply's. I have a longer hose but it is the regular size. I start sleeping on one side the flip several times. You would not think that you could tell any difference, but it feels like you are moving a 2 inch hose after using a slimline for so long.

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by JDS74 » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:29 am

The ends of CPAP hoses fit a standard diameter plastic fitting. All you need is a short piece of PVC water pipe to make the splice. The diameter is exactly the same as one of the smaller sizes available at your home store.
Do take your hose with you to make sure you are getting the correct size.

I believe that even Slimline Climate Control hoses can be connected this way but you will lose the heating capability of the second hose. That one should be insulated so that the anti-rainout functionality is not lost

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by KenH » Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:25 pm

Thanks JDS74, I do not use a heated hose anyway. We are from the old school and believe that thing on the wall will make your house warm if you push the little screen enough times to make it a bigger number. I bet I have some PVC and will make a connector tonight.

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by StuUnderPressure » Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:59 pm

KenH wrote:I bet I have some PVC and will make a connector tonight.
They make clear plastic connectors that swivel at both ends.

These are usually used to connect to the mask, but they certainly could be used to connect 2 SlimLine hoses together.

You should be able to get these from your DME or here at cpap.com

This one is from Respironics, but should work.
Or, you may be able to find a ResMed one.

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/hose-c ... igodigital

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by JDS74 » Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:24 pm

The swivel connecter certainly looks like a nice solution. A two inch length of PVC water pipe will cost almost nothing, be available right now but will not provide the swivel action in case that issue is important. It might very well be worth trying the PVC piece to see if that works while ordering one of these really neat connectors for a long term solution.

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by echo » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:43 pm

The swivel connector is great - I use it to connect my 8' hose to the activa's smaller (more flexible and lighter) hose, and connect all of my masks to that (um, connected one at a time obviously).
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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by billbolton » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:22 am

KenH wrote:Will it hurt or change anything if I hook 2 hoses together.
The performance of the whole air circuit of a xAPAP system is dependent on the length/diameter of hose attached to the blower. If you truly add just a little more, then you are probably OK, but if you add more than just a little you may impact the effective treatment pressure at your mask

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by LinkC » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:45 am

I second what Bill said. Going from 8 to 10 ft is no biggie. But 16 could affect treatment... especially since you have an Auto machine.

Have you considered sleeping in the same room as your machine?

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by Bobshouse » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:47 am

Why ask questions like this, your going to get all kinds of answers. Next sleep doc appointment, take your machine and try it. or buy yourself a manometer and try it yourself. Post your results.

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/guage- ... ssure.html

Personally, I don't think distance effects pressure. I can link 14 garden hoses in line and the water comes out the end just as fast as it would with 1 hose. Now heat/humidity is a whole different thing, it would not be humid/warm by the time it got through all 14 garden hoses.

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by Denial Dave » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:13 am

I beg to differ on this..... simply using a climate line hose will not "probably cause a little more rain out"

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Bobshouse wrote:Wont help if it's a climate line hose. Will probably cause a little more "rain out" if your using a humidifier. Other than that, no problems as far as pressure concerns.

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Re: Connecting 2 slimline tubes together

Post by StuUnderPressure » Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:24 am

JDS74 wrote:The swivel connecter certainly looks like a nice solution. A two inch length of PVC water pipe will cost almost nothing, be available right now but will not provide the swivel action in case that issue is important. It might very well be worth trying the PVC piece to see if that works while ordering one of these really neat connectors for a long term solution.
The "drag" caused by using a permanently fixed PVC piece WILL pull on the mask every time he moves.

A "swivel" connection (preferably at both ends) will avoid that problem.

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