F & P Simplus FFM is here

49er · Post by **49er** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 10:40 am

CPAP.com is now selling it.

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/fisher ... -mask.html

Return insurance is 21.25.

49er

squid13 · Post by **squid13** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:07 am

Be nice if they had a sizing gage.

Denial Dave · Post by **Denial Dave** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:34 pm

Ill buy it from our sponsors as soon as a sizing guide is available.

DoriC · Post by **DoriC** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:30 pm

I checked with our host earlier today and was told that the mfr hadn't released a sizing guide yet but suggested that I purchase the return insurance if the size wasn't correct. Dave, I may wait for you to take the plunge!

alexsmom · Post by **alexsmom** » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:01 pm

49er- I ordered it from Cpap Supply USA for $105.00. Hasn't shipped yet but they did charge my PayPal account today.

49er · Post by **49er** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:19 am

alexsmom wrote:49er- I ordered it from Cpap Supply USA for $105.00. Hasn't shipped yet but they did charge my PayPal account today.

Thanks alexsmom.

If I decide to give the mask a shot, I will order it from cpap.com since they are now selling it. Hope it works for you.

49er

Denial Dave · Post by **Denial Dave** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:33 am

Our hosts sent me a sizing guide this morning via e-mail... It's a PDf document.... its the same type of sizing guide that F & P used on the ESON..... you print it out and then hold it up to your face.

As best I can tell from using the guide - I'm a medium.

I figure that since the frame is a one size fita all, it the cushion on the medium is too small or too large, I can order a different size cushion.

I placed my order wiht our hosts this morning.. Paid $105 without insurance. It will be shipping to me on Monday.

If all goes well, I'll be able to try it out during Thanksgiving holiday.

As soon as I get it, I'll post a review. if the Quattro Air was wider it would have been awesome...The Simplus has a wider profile around the mouth, so I've got my fingers crossed.

Dave

DoriC wrote:I checked with our host earlier today and was told that the mfr hadn't released a sizing guide yet but suggested that I purchase the return insurance if the size wasn't correct. Dave, I may wait for you to take the plunge!

Rob108 · Post by **Rob108** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:47 am

Denial Dave wrote:Our hosts sent me a sizing guide this morning via e-mail... It's a PDf document.... its the same type of sizing guide that F & P used on the ESON..... you print it out and then hold it up to your face.

Dave

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Just checked and still no size guide on host site.
Any ideas on how it compares to the quattro fx or comfortgel full? I have tried the quattro fx in large size butprefer the comfortgel full in XL size.
Thanks
Rob

DoriC · Post by **DoriC** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:26 am

Denial Dave wrote:Our hosts sent me a sizing guide this morning via e-mail... It's a PDf document.... its the same type of sizing guide that F & P used on the ESON..... you print it out and then hold it up to your face.

As best I can tell from using the guide - I'm a medium.

I figure that since the frame is a one size fita all, it the cushion on the medium is too small or too large, I can order a different size cushion.

I placed my order wiht our hosts this morning.. Paid $105 without insurance. It will be shipping to me on Monday.

If all goes well, I'll be able to try it out during Thanksgiving holiday.

As soon as I get it, I'll post a review. if the Quattro Air was wider it would have been awesome...The Simplus has a wider profile around the mouth, so I've got my fingers crossed.

No insurance?? How much is another size cushion?

Dave

DoriC wrote:I checked with our host earlier today and was told that the mfr hadn't released a sizing guide yet but suggested that I purchase the return insurance if the size wasn't correct. Dave, I may wait for you to take the plunge!

avi123 · Post by **avi123** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:28 am

I see the same posters praising F&P masks again and again. But I have yet to see any of them providing Stats reports of the Leak when using these F&P masks. I maintain that F&P masks do not have the technology of the "double silicone flaps" in their cushions that Resmed and Respironics have (F&P don't own PATENTS for it).

Example: see the one year nightly value of 95% Percentile of 7.2 L/Minute of the actual unintentional LEAK that I achieve with my Resmed nasal mask (it's a MEDIAN of the 95% for all the 2,502 nights).

let me fix the window width

Denial Dave · Post by **Denial Dave** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:28 am

for reference sake...

I started with the Quattro FX sized medium... it lasted 30 days before I gave up on sealing leaks.....
Next came the Comfort Gel Blue FFM in medium.... it lasted 48 hours before it sailed across the room

The Quattro standard FFM in medium has been my mask for over a year now.

tried the Quattro Air in medium and large a few months ago. The frame was just too narrow for my face and it felt like I was forced to pucker up. botht of them went back to our hosts via insurance.

for fun, I'm going to try the Simplus FFM in medium.

worst thing that can happen is that I go back to my old reliable Mirage Quattro FFM.

DoriC · Post by **DoriC** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:08 pm

avi123 wrote:I see the same posters praising F&P masks again and again. But I have yet to see any of them providing Stats reports of the Leak when using these F&P masks. I maintain that F&P masks do not have the technology of the "double silicone flaps" in their cushions that Resmed and Respironics have (F&P don't own PATENTS for it).

Example: see the one year nightly value of 95% Percentile of 7.2 L/Minute of the actual unintentional LEAK that I achieve with my Resmed nasal mask (it's a MEDIAN of the 95% for all the 2,502 nights).

let me fix the window width

Avi's back!

squid13 · Post by **squid13** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:14 pm

If you remember Avi123 I posted my stats for my F&P Forma and had zero leaks and all you could say was there was something wrong with my machine, cause nobody could have zero leaks for that long.

DoriC · Post by **DoriC** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:26 pm

How much is a new cushion? Does anyone know?

echo · Post by **echo** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:50 pm

Dori, Just wondering if you guys have tried the Quattro FX? It's the only FFM that I've gotten to somewhat work for me. Separately, I know you're a pro at this , but just thought I'd mention / ask whether you've tried a chinstrap/pap-cap together with the FFM? I've found that my jaw tends to go up and down a lot at night (I sleep talk? ), and that causes the mask to move. The pap-cap prevents my jaw from falling, which helps keep the seal. Perhaps Mike also likes to exercise his jaw while sleeping?

Dave, similar question for you in case you've tried the Quattro FX, can you also compare the silicon of the Simplus to the Quattro FX? I found that the other F&P masks I tried several years ago had a very strange type of silicon - more rigid and heavier than the Resmed/Respironics masks.

BTW, what's the difference between the old Quattro and the Quattro Air? I haven't been following mask technology for a few years!

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