The Future of Healthcare

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The Future of Healthcare

Post by Goofproof » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:01 pm

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The above is what I got in my drug shipment instead of the normal prescription ordered. A pre benefit of Obamacare, the tip of the iceberg. Instead if shipping the 9 vials that were prescribed the order was cut to 7 for my 3 months supply. As you can read it's for my protection to keep me from overdosing on it. Either they think we are morons or they are. This is the second prescription the government has fooled with, the first being AndroGel, for that they cut it back to one added refill per script, instead of three. By deciding to change Doctors Prescriptions they can kill of the sick or make them sicker. This problem is compounded by the fact I have to mix two types of insulin for every injection.

I'am sure glad Obama has my well being at the forefront. I don't know how I've managed to treat my diabetes with out his help all these years. This is health ins that I paid for be working every day, many times when I would been better off not working at all. Sick or Shine, we worked, But since No one who is running our country evey held a real working producing job is in charge this is what we get. They might as well hold off the heart meds, it would be quicker... Jim
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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:13 pm

I suspect this is to prevent you from having excess on hand when you expire.
You will simply have to get your Rx filled more frequently.
Pain in the bum, yes?
I expected a wait when I joined Medicare, so I ordered 3 months supply of my Lantus my final month with BCBS.

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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by zoocrewphoto » Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:39 pm

My mom had her test strips reduced. She used to be able to test up to 3 times a day. Now she gets enough strips for once a day, assuming no errors. Most days are pretty normal, but her blood sugar can g o up and down when we travel and her eating schedule is messed up. Back when the problem started, she was really messed up for awhile as they did not tell her that her strips had been reduced. She thought they had sent her a 1 month supply instead of 3 months. So, she ran out and they refused to send her more. She had to go 2 months without testing.

Now, she skips testing if she feels okay as she wants to save them for the days when she doesn't feel okay. It shouldn't be that way.

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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by hyperlexis » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:15 pm

Stop the fearmongering. Fox news does a good enough job on its own.

So you not only have low testosterone and take an expensive brand name drug to treat it, but on top of that, you have diabetes and want nine vials of synthetic, brand name insulin each and you DARE point fingers at others for being 'drains' on the healthcare system, needing insurance through Obamacare! PUHLEASE!

Go out and exercise, lose some weight, and then come plead to the world how the mean socialist black president is treating you unfairly by trying to to provide healthcare for millions of other sick Americans.

My friend, prescription drug limits have been the norm for private health insurance companies for decades. There is always a drug dispensing limit per month, to stop people from hoarding and ordering double or triple the amount of a drug to cram onto one month's co-pay. That saves everyone money from scammers. If I ordered 400 tablets of X-drug a month when the normal maximum safe dose is 90 tablets per month, my insurer doesn't have to pay for the extra 310. If someone wants to hoard extra tablets, then fine, but he should pay for the extras.

If for some reason a doctor feels a person needs an abnormally large quantity of drug -- like 9 vials of insulin when the maximum normal safe quantity for an average human is 7, then the doctor can write a letter to the insurer to explain the patient is so gravely ill, he needs so much insulin. The insurance company will then independently review the appeal from the doctor (because one of the components of Obamacare is to mandate such an appeal process to help patients!) and decide. The appeal panel must consider the health of the patient, so likely will allow the drug.

Here is the form my insurer uses to get extra drug quantities approved: https://www.myprimemail.com/MyRx/MyRxHe ... 1&zoom=100

So no, the horrible socialist black president is not coming to kill you, nor is Obamacare. Call the insurer, call your doctor, and they will take care of it. Perhaps its simply switching to a generic equivalent drug, or getting a letter of medical necessity from the doctor.

Or perhaps you should be more concerned about why you need so much insulin ...and are so willing to deny such care to others!

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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by Janknitz » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:37 pm

Current cuts to Medicare are a product of the Bush era, not Obama. Lay the blame where it belongs.
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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by zoocrewphoto » Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:42 pm

hyperlexis wrote:...and are so willing to deny such care to others!

There is a difference between not being for a program that is not designed well and actaully wanting to deny health care to others.

For example, I think the IDEALS of Obamacare are great. If it could work as stated, it would be awesome. But the truth is my hours about to get reduced, and my health coverage dropped. I have looked at the state's offerings, and they will cost so much more than I currently pay, that I will most likely go at least a year without insurance. I can't afford a 5x increase in premiums OR a loss of hours (as well as sunday pay and holiday pay being eliminated, I do work both). But it looks like I will be having to deal with BOTH. A pay cut and a price increase.

I would never want to deny health care to others. I simply want a system where we help those who need help without hurting those who were at least getting by. I do have unpaid medical bills since I had some larger bills in the last 3 years. Some things weren't covered (my insurance company thought vertigo was somehow an accident that I should sue somebody else for, so I got stuck with 2 ER bills). My sleep study was $6,000 (yes, really), and my portion was $863. That was over a year ago, and I am still paying it down. So, here I am with decent insurance, some old medical bills despite decent insurance, and NOW I have to lose my insurance??? And get accused of being mean and wanting to hurt others?

I haven't meant anybody taking a loss who is FOR Obamacare. Only those are are gaining, or think they are safe.

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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by hyperlexis » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:29 pm

zoocrewphoto wrote:
hyperlexis wrote:...and are so willing to deny such care to others!

There is a difference between not being for a program that is not designed well and actaully wanting to deny health care to others.

For example, I think the IDEALS of Obamacare are great. If it could work as stated, it would be awesome. But the truth is my hours about to get reduced, and my health coverage dropped. I have looked at the state's offerings, and they will cost so much more than I currently pay, that I will most likely go at least a year without insurance. I can't afford a 5x increase in premiums OR a loss of hours (as well as sunday pay and holiday pay being eliminated, I do work both). But it looks like I will be having to deal with BOTH. A pay cut and a price increase.

I would never want to deny health care to others. I simply want a system where we help those who need help without hurting those who were at least getting by. I do have unpaid medical bills since I had some larger bills in the last 3 years. Some things weren't covered (my insurance company thought vertigo was somehow an accident that I should sue somebody else for, so I got stuck with 2 ER bills). My sleep study was $6,000 (yes, really), and my portion was $863. That was over a year ago, and I am still paying it down. So, here I am with decent insurance, some old medical bills despite decent insurance, and NOW I have to lose my insurance??? And get accused of being mean and wanting to hurt others?

I haven't meant anybody taking a loss who is FOR Obamacare. Only those are are gaining, or think they are safe.

I can respect your opinions and I completely empathize. These are valid concerns that should be dealt with. Mine is likely going up/benefits down as well. But the OP is definitely not new to this rodeo. He hates Obama, hates the ACA and what it stands for, and feels he's earned his insurance bones while others have not. That's a whole different story. You have to look through old posts...

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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by Goofproof » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:40 pm

hyperlexis wrote:
zoocrewphoto wrote:
hyperlexis wrote:...and are so willing to deny such care to others!

There is a difference between not being for a program that is not designed well and actaully wanting to deny health care to others.

For example, I think the IDEALS of Obamacare are great. If it could work as stated, it would be awesome. But the truth is my hours about to get reduced, and my health coverage dropped. I have looked at the state's offerings, and they will cost so much more than I currently pay, that I will most likely go at least a year without insurance. I can't afford a 5x increase in premiums OR a loss of hours (as well as sunday pay and holiday pay being eliminated, I do work both). But it looks like I will be having to deal with BOTH. A pay cut and a price increase.

I would never want to deny health care to others. I simply want a system where we help those who need help without hurting those who were at least getting by. I do have unpaid medical bills since I had some larger bills in the last 3 years. Some things weren't covered (my insurance company thought vertigo was somehow an accident that I should sue somebody else for, so I got stuck with 2 ER bills). My sleep study was $6,000 (yes, really), and my portion was $863. That was over a year ago, and I am still paying it down. So, here I am with decent insurance, some old medical bills despite decent insurance, and NOW I have to lose my insurance??? And get accused of being mean and wanting to hurt others?

I haven't meant anybody taking a loss who is FOR Obamacare. Only those are are gaining, or think they are safe.



I can respect your opinions and I completely empathize. These are valid concerns that should be dealt with. Mine is likely going up/benefits down as well. But the OP is definitely not new to this rodeo. He hates Obama, hates the ACA and what it stands for, and feels he's earned his insurance bones while others have not. That's a whole different story. You have to look through old posts...
Finally said something thst was true, while you were studying Socialism 101, from the Commie Professors, I was working to keep your world spinning. That,s what Americans used to do. Jim
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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by hyperlexis » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:48 pm

Goofproof wrote:
Finally said something thst was true, while you were studying Socialism 101, from the Commie Professors, I was working to keep your world spinning. That,s what Americans used to do. Jim
Oh Jim, if you only knew!

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Post by Wulfman... » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:09 pm

Janknitz wrote:Current cuts to Medicare are a product of the Bush era, not Obama. Lay the blame where it belongs.
OK then, the financial collapse of 2008 was a "product of" the Clinton era, not Bush.

In my opinion, when Obama was sworn in as President, he took "ownership" of all the problems that had been the "products of" every previous administration before him. Yet, he tried to (and still does) put any blame on everyone else. If certain previous legislation was so bad, he had a "super majority" of all three branches of government and could have legislatively reversed things. Instead, he's (deliberately) making things worse and flushing this country down the toilet. Don't forget one other thing, the Democratic party had the majority in the House and Senate for the last two years of the second Bush term.

For what it's worth, I've never been a fan of the Bush family either........voted for Perot in 1992.


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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by Goofproof » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:16 pm

hyperlexis wrote:
Goofproof wrote:
Finally said something thst was true, while you were studying Socialism 101, from the Commie Professors, I was working to keep your world spinning. That,s what Americans used to do. Jim
Oh Jim, if you only knew!

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Sounds About right to me! While I was in Viet Nam, you were probably reading from the Cong Little Red Book, I missed all that, no free love, too busy working! Jim
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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by Goofproof » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:26 pm

Wulfman... wrote:
Janknitz wrote:Current cuts to Medicare are a product of the Bush era, not Obama. Lay the blame where it belongs.
OK then, the financial collapse of 2008 was a "product of" the Clinton era, not Bush.

In my opinion, when Obama was sworn in as President, he took "ownership" of all the problems that had been the "products of" every previous administration before him. Yet, he tried to (and still does) put any blame on everyone else. If certain previous legislation was so bad, he had a "super majority" of all three branches of government and could have legislatively reversed things. Instead, he's (deliberately) making things worse and flushing this country down the toilet. Don't forget one other thing, the Democratic party had the majority in the House and Senate for the last two years of the second Bush term.

For what it's worth, I've never been a fan of the Bush family either........voted for Perot in 1992.


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I voted for Perot too, I always vote for the better man insuring we will be stuck with the toad. I voted for Carter too, but he was too smart and honest for the job. Not only did obama take running the country into the ground at a outstanding rate. His worst failing is he now has to build on his failing foundation. Who would have thought Reagan would be out last good president, that one snook up on even me! Jim
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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by rkuntz123 » Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:41 pm

hyperlexis said,
.... "I am the Professor. I am the danger."

Figures.

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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by 6PtStar » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:52 pm

I'm so glad that hyperlexis is so healthy that this kind of restrictions do not effect him.

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Re: The Future of Healthcare

Post by Goofproof » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:32 pm

6PtStar wrote:I'm so glad that hyperlexis is so healthy that this kind of restrictions do not effect him.

Jerry
Dementia is hard to treat, at least he is happy! Jim

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