Need help sleeping? Try Magnesium. Slept solid 5 hours!

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Re: Need help sleeping? Try Magnesium. Slept solid 5 hours!

Post by Lazer1234 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:21 pm

Sir NoddinOff wrote:Here's something I just wrote for another thread... I'm too lazy to retype it so here's a cut and paste:

Another way to supplement magnesium, which I do, is to buy Magnesium Oil at any health food store. You spray a few shots onto your abdomen once a day and rub it in. It's not really oily but just feels that way until it dries. Your skin simply absorbs what it needs, that way no fuss about taking too many pills.
It works, you can take bath too.

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Post by rkuntz123 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:26 pm

Been taking magnesium for years for leg cramps and now the Doc tells leg cramps are symptomatic of Restless Leg Syndrome, who knew. At any rate but there is a magnesium variant out there called Magnesiumthreonate that I like.
Magnesiumthreonate was originally publicized for helping old rats remember things better. This old rat doesn't notice any difference in memory, heck I don't remember if I ever had one. Magnesiumthreonate is more costly than straight magnesium but it works for cramps at about 1/3rd the dose of standard Magnesium.

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Post by SleepyBobR » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:34 pm

Magnesium comes in many forms, some more easily absorbed than others, and can be expensive in its more esoteric formulations. Save your money and stick with the grocery store variety if you think you need Mg supplementation. As noted before, it is one of a number of vital electrolytes in the human body and is important for good health and for maintenance of proper cardiac rhythm but most people get all they need in a healthy diet. Mg supplements are not dangerous but they are not normally considered to be a sleep aid either (although some say they are relaxing). But hey, if it helps you get to sleep then go for it. Much safer and easier on the body than anti-histamines or addictive hypnotics and benzos with their hangovers and withdrawal symptoms.

My experience with Mg is that, like vitamin C, my body uses what it needs and quickly eliminates the excess. Sometimes very quickly.

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Post by Sir NoddinOff » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:01 am

Lazer1234 wrote:
Sir NoddinOff wrote:Here's something I just wrote for another thread... I'm too lazy to retype it so here's a cut and paste:

Another way to supplement magnesium, which I do, is to buy Magnesium Oil at any health food store. You spray a few shots onto your abdomen once a day and rub it in. It's not really oily but just feels that way until it dries. Your skin simply absorbs what it needs, that way no fuss about taking too many pills.
It works, you can take bath too.
If you're about my age you may remember your grandmother putting a handful of Magnesium Salts from a big box (like a laundry soap box) into the hot water after filling the bathtub. That's the early twentieth century therapeutic practice old people used to 'relax'... some of the magnesium from the bathwater was absorbed thru the skin, plus the heat of the water helped relax tired old muscles. I suppose it was busman's holiday version of a visit to the mineral springs! I never tried Magnesium baths when I was a kid, mostly because - well, I was a kid, that's why.

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Post by bryansong » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:57 am

Sir NoddinOff wrote:Here's something I just wrote for another thread... I'm too lazy to retype it so here's a cut and paste:

Another way to supplement magnesium, which I do, is to buy Magnesium Oil at any health food store. You spray a few shots onto your abdomen once a day and rub it in. It's not really oily but just feels that way until it dries. Your skin simply absorbs what it needs, that way no fuss about taking too many pills.

I was at the Health Food store last night trying to figure out what the article from the post meant with a history of digestive problems (which I've had) a transdermal or some word like that, application might work better (paraphrased, hopefully close understanding), any,

I bet that's that spray or topical way of applying it. I didn't see any spray or bottles so I bought 250mg tablets and took 2 last night. I don't know if it helped or will help but I'll try it for a while and see.
It still took me a couple of hours before I fell to sleep laying there as usual.

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Post by Guest » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:58 am

GrantT wrote:
LinkC wrote:If you are using it to achieve deeper sleep, then it's a sleep drug, by definition. But, whatever you call it, see what your sleep doc says.
By that definition, by using CPAP to increase oxygen levels in our systems we are using oxygen as a sleep drug too then?

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NOT the same thing. Your NORMAL O² levels are 100%, sleep apnea decreases these levels because your passageway is blocked. Mine was around 70% or so. Now it's 98%.

So first of all the CPAP machines do not ADD Oxygen, they take the air that is there and allows your body to make better use of it, so no "drugs" are involved. It's not increasing the levels merely using the machine to maintain Normal PROPER levels.

Bottom line: you have a HORRIBLE analogy, you need some work. Put more thought into it. It's NOT the same thing.

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Post by Lazer1234 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:02 am

Guest# I think everyone but you understood what Grant meant.

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Post by bbridge_GA » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:02 pm

Magnesium is an electrolyte like potassium and salt. It is necessary for every part of our body. The only side effect is that it is a laxative if you take too much. Some forms include Milk of Magnesia or Epsom Salts or magnesium citrate. Try Vit D too.

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Post by ClayL » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:36 pm

My mother in law told my wife how great magnesium was and how well it worked. My wife tried it for two weeks. Didn't work.
My mother in law was complaining the other day about how poorly she was sleeping so apparently it didn't really work for her either.
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Post by DonaldST » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:17 pm

Hey can anyon get me some ritalin? I can pay for it just not that much. Does anyone live in canada?

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Post by Dr Philip » Thu Oct 10, 2013 10:19 pm

DonaldST wrote:Hey can anyon get me some ritalin? I can pay for it just not that much. Does anyone live in canada?
Ithink you would need to see a doctor about that Donald. That is a prescription drug.

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Post by herefishy » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:53 am

bryansong wrote:
Sir NoddinOff wrote:Here's something I just wrote for another thread... I'm too lazy to retype it so here's a cut and paste:

Another way to supplement magnesium, which I do, is to buy Magnesium Oil at any health food store. You spray a few shots onto your abdomen once a day and rub it in. It's not really oily but just feels that way until it dries. Your skin simply absorbs what it needs, that way no fuss about taking too many pills.

I was at the Health Food store last night trying to figure out what the article from the post meant with a history of digestive problems (which I've had) a transdermal or some word like that, application might work better (paraphrased, hopefully close understanding), any,

I bet that's that spray or topical way of applying it. I didn't see any spray or bottles so I bought 250mg tablets and took 2 last night. I don't know if it helped or will help but I'll try it for a while and see.
It still took me a couple of hours before I fell to sleep laying there as usual.

Bryan
I get my magnesium oil out of the bulk bottle and dispense it into a spray bottle, then just pay for the amount it takes to fill the bottle. Ask for the bulk magnesium oil.

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Post by bryansong » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:51 am

Thank you!

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Post by davep700 » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:22 am

Just tried Magnesium last night. Feel energetic and alert today. Might be placebo effect. e.g. I anticipate sleeping well, and end up relaxing better.

For me, it's usually have the reverse placebo effect. I assume the pill is NOT going to work. The substance would have to do something very obvious for me to credit it as helping.

Sorry to bump an old thread.

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Wed Mar 09, 2016 10:51 am

Supplementation of magnesium appears to improve subjective measures of insomnia such as ISI score, sleep efficiency, sleep time and sleep onset latency, early morning awakening, and likewise, insomnia objective measures such as concentration of serum renin, melatonin, and serum cortisol, in elderly people.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23853635