Review: HealthCare.gov a winner despite glitches

You can argue what you want, but it will remain a fact that medical care and insurance are too important to trust to those politicians in Washington. They can't balance their own checkbook.

PST wrote:

deerhound wrote:Well I got my Obamadon'tcare rates from the company I retired from. My $2500 a year promised decrease became a $900 a year increase. I wish The Lyin' King would quit promising the opposite of what he gives. I can't afford anymore lies. Thanks Democrats you own it.

If you aren't buying insurance on the exchange, that is to say, if this is simply a rate change in a plan you have been on for years, what does Obamacare have to do with it? Medical care costs have been going up for a long time. What's the Obama connection and when did he promise people in your position a $2,500 cut?

Democrats took over healthcare in 2009. Where have you been? The Lyin' King promised $2500 decrease. I wasn't able to keep my doctor. All lies. How do you know my position? Do you work for the IRS, NSA? I still haven't been able to access what my options are on the exchanges from the "out of the box success" so I don't know what those Obamadon't care rates are. I was hoping to make an informed decision about where to get insurance, but Obama incompetence is preventing that. I am an American, Obama's laws aren't supposed to help ME? Are they only for illegals and leeches? I could tell in 2008 that only lies came out of Obama's mouth, so none of this surprises me. By the time Progressives get done helping I won't be able to afford to eat.

NateS wrote:

NateS wrote: I suspected there was a reason why you didn't include a clickable url to your quotation, but I found it anyway and it confirmed my suspicions.

Nate

I did clearly include a "clickable url" in my post for anyone to read for himself.

Still laughing heartily at the little leftist's blog on Daily Kos.

So he has a child now? Many parents still have to grow up so there is hope that he starts learning about the real world.

And just for the record, the url is still in my post and it is also in the post that Granny quoted. It is even in your post as a quote. Check your therapy. Overlooking the url three times is a bad sign for you.

deerhound wrote: By the time Progressives get done helping I won't be able to afford to eat.

That's what they're counting on. They want you to be subservient to them. They want you to have to come to them for everything.
I'm still not sure what's going to happen once they run out of other peoples' money........but, maybe they'll just keep printing it and hope for the best.


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And if you doubt me, all you have to do is look at what happened to the "Native Americans".


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An interesting article about the company behind the "problematic" rollout: (copy link and take out the spaces)

http : // www . washingtonpost . com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/16/meet-cgi-federal-the-company-behind-the-botched-launch-of-healthcare-gov/


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Wulfman... wrote:

deerhound wrote: By the time Progressives get done helping I won't be able to afford to eat.

That's what they're counting on. They want you to be subservient to them. They want you to have to come to them for everything.
I'm still not sure what's going to happen once they run out of other peoples' money........but, maybe they'll just keep printing it and hope for the best.


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That's why the government is stockpiling ammo and disposable FEMA caskets. jim

True?

From someone who knows:
I have worked in the government on and off for 40 years. During that time I became quite familiar with requisitions, bidding, awarding contracts etc. It is a time consuming process with bean-counters and pencil-necked bureaucrats every step of the way. The simplest request takes months not days or hours.

In less than 8 hours of the shutdown, miraculously, professionally printed 3X4 foot signs appeared all over the country in the tens of thousands saying-“this [park, facility, etc. with custom logos] closed due to government shutdown.

There has not been a government shutdown in 17 years. These signs were designed, specifications were determined, signs were then requisitioned, bids were posted and vetted, government contracts were awarded. The materials were then ordered and the signs manufactured then distributed U.S. Mails or freight companies. This shutdown was orchestrated and planned well in advance at least 6-8 months ago. Millions of tax dollars were appropriated and spent in this process. There is a paper trail a mile long leading directly to the White House.

Christine L wrote:True?

From someone who knows:
I have worked in the government on and off for 40 years. During that time I became quite familiar with requisitions, bidding, awarding contracts etc. It is a time consuming process with bean-counters and pencil-necked bureaucrats every step of the way. The simplest request takes months not days or hours.

In less than 8 hours of the shutdown, miraculously, professionally printed 3X4 foot signs appeared all over the country in the tens of thousands saying-“this [park, facility, etc. with custom logos] closed due to government shutdown.

There has not been a government shutdown in 17 years. These signs were designed, specifications were determined, signs were then requisitioned, bids were posted and vetted, government contracts were awarded. The materials were then ordered and the signs manufactured then distributed U.S. Mails or freight companies. This shutdown was orchestrated and planned well in advance at least 6-8 months ago. Millions of tax dollars were appropriated and spent in this process. There is a paper trail a mile long leading directly to the White House.

I'm wondering more and more if these are all real signs of the end times. And the fact that CPAPs use micro technology directly derived from the abortion industry is reprehensible.

hyperlexis wrote:

Christine L wrote:True?

From someone who knows:
I have worked in the government on and off for 40 years. During that time I became quite familiar with requisitions, bidding, awarding contracts etc. It is a time consuming process with bean-counters and pencil-necked bureaucrats every step of the way. The simplest request takes months not days or hours.

In less than 8 hours of the shutdown, miraculously, professionally printed 3X4 foot signs appeared all over the country in the tens of thousands saying-“this [park, facility, etc. with custom logos] closed due to government shutdown.

There has not been a government shutdown in 17 years. These signs were designed, specifications were determined, signs were then requisitioned, bids were posted and vetted, government contracts were awarded. The materials were then ordered and the signs manufactured then distributed U.S. Mails or freight companies. This shutdown was orchestrated and planned well in advance at least 6-8 months ago. Millions of tax dollars were appropriated and spent in this process. There is a paper trail a mile long leading directly to the White House.

I'm wondering more and more if these are all real signs of the end times. And the fact that CPAPs use micro technology directly derived from the abortion industry is reprehensible.

Oh, absolutely! I was thinking the same thing.

Goofproof wrote:That's why the government is stockpiling ammo and disposable FEMA caskets. jim

Always thought you were more right than I am left, but now I just think your nuts!

PST wrote: If you aren't buying insurance on the exchange, that is to say, if this is simply a rate change in a plan you have been on for years, what does Obamacare have to do with it? Medical care costs have been going up for a long time. What's the Obama connection and when did he promise people in your position a $2,500 cut?

Insurance plans are now required to have a lot more things covered. For example, every policy must include coverage for delivering a baby (even if you are are male or well past the age of producing a baby). All plans must have mental health coverage. All plans must allow pre-existing conditions. These are things that cause the price to go up. Just because you have a plan you like right now, doesn't mean that the plan wil be considered good enough to be legal in 2014. So, plans are going up in cost.

In my case, I will most likely lose my insurance completely. It is still in negotiations right now. My plan was really good, and the premiums were super low. But the plan qualifies for the 40% cadillac plan tax, and my employer doesn't want to pay that tax. So, they are trying to dump our insurance and reduce everybody's hours to keep is below the requirement. We are still waiting to find out if we have a contract to vote on, or a strike. It is not much fun waiting.

I have already lost my doctor. She didn't want to deal with all the requirements, so she closed her private practice and moved even further away to join a group where all the paperwork is handled by somebody else. I followed her when she opened her private practice several years ago, but that was already an hour drive each way. Now it is further. My mom went once, and hated the new place. So, time to look for a new doctor.

As for the $2500 claim, he said it many different speeches. There are lots of video clips of it. A google search such produce many links. He also said if we liked our plan, we could keep it. If we liked our doctor, we keep them. He forgot to consider that we can't keep something if it is cancelled.

zoocrewphoto wrote:
In my case, I will most likely lose my insurance completely. It is still in negotiations right now. My plan was really good, and the premiums were super low. But the plan qualifies for the 40% cadillac plan tax, and my employer doesn't want to pay that tax. So, they are trying to dump our insurance and reduce everybody's hours to keep is below the requirement.

"If you like your insurance policy, you can keep it."

zoocrewphoto wrote:
I have already lost my doctor. She didn't want to deal with all the requirements, so she closed her private practice and moved even further away to join a group where all the paperwork is handled by somebody else. I followed her when she opened her private practice several years ago, but that was already an hour drive each way. Now it is further. My mom went once, and hated the new place. So, time to look for a new doctor.

"If you like your doctor, you can keep her."

Taiwanese having fun with Obamacare - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V1FCzw ... NsYQrQPTGY

Obama doesn't care this much but there are some good lines in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-ajt5d ... ture=share