To the "Answer Team" regarding S9 Autoset and ASV therapy

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To the "Answer Team" regarding S9 Autoset and ASV therapy

Post by STL Mark » Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:41 pm

It has recently come to my attention that the models of the S9 used for ASV therapy in the UK contain the word Autoset In the model name. It appears that the US model of the S9 VPAP Adapt sold prior to October 2012 is similar to what is marketed in the UK as the S9 Autoset CS (Ref: 36140). It would appear that the current S9 VPAP Adapt in the US is similar to what is marketed in the UK as the S9 Autoset CS-A (Ref: 36211).

With this in mind, the statement that "the S9 Autoset does not treat central apnea" is no longer a true statement unless you know the exact model.

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Re: To the "Answer Team" regarding S9 Autoset and ASV therapy

Post by Stormynights » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:04 pm

STL Mark wrote:It has recently come to my attention that the models of the S9 used for ASV therapy in the UK contain the word Autoset In the model name. It appears that the US model of the S9 VPAP Adapt sold prior to October 2012 is similar to what is marketed in the UK as the S9 Autoset CS (Ref: 36140). It would appear that the current S9 VPAP Adapt in the US is similar to what is marketed in the UK as the S9 Autoset CS-A (Ref: 36211).

With this in mind, the statement that "the S9 Autoset does not treat central apnea" is no longer a true statement unless you know the exact model.
The CSA has that extra part with a button in the middle. What is that?

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Re: To the "Answer Team" regarding S9 Autoset and ASV therapy

Post by STL Mark » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:08 pm

Stormynights wrote:The CSA has that extra part with a button in the middle. What is that?
That? It is the extra part, you know, with the button.

I see it on our COPD and ST-A models, The user guide states:
Alarm mute button: Pressing once mutes an alarm. Pressing a second time unmutes it. If the
alarm is enabled by the clinician, the blue therapy LED is on during therapy. The alarm LED is
flashing yellow during an alarm.

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Re: To the "Answer Team" regarding S9 Autoset and ASV therapy

Post by Stormynights » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:15 pm

You are funny. I just never saw that before. I was looking at that last night. Do we have Pacewave?

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Re: To the "Answer Team" regarding S9 Autoset and ASV therapy

Post by squid13 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:23 pm

Maybe we don't have those particular machines cause they haven't been approved by the FDA.

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Re: To the "Answer Team" regarding S9 Autoset and ASV therapy

Post by STL Mark » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:11 pm

Speaking of machines we don't have in the US check out the Respironics A30. It has a really nice display that even displays the oximeter information.

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Re: To the "Answer Team" regarding S9 Autoset and ASV therapy

Post by chunkyfrog » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:32 pm

Other places get so much cool stuff first. (sigh)
I wonder what else they are holding out on us?
Or what they will pull out of their hat in response to whatever the Koreans bring out.

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Re: To the "Answer Team" regarding S9 Autoset and ASV therapy

Post by JDS74 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:34 pm

STL Mark wrote:Speaking of machines we don't have in the US check out the Respironics A30. It has a really nice display that even displays the oximeter information.
Speaking of oximetry data, do you know of a source for the broadband/oximetry module and associated pieces?

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Re: To the "Answer Team" regarding S9 Autoset and ASV therapy

Post by idamtnboy » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:08 pm

chunkyfrog wrote:Other places get so much cool stuff first. (sigh)
I wonder what else they are holding out on us?
Or what they will pull out of their hat in response to whatever the Koreans bring out.
Well, if we weren't so moribund by slap happy lawyers ready to sue at at the slightest hitch in a new product, maybe we would have new products sooner also.

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Re: To the "Answer Team" regarding S9 Autoset and ASV therapy

Post by 49er » Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:29 am

idamtnboy wrote:
chunkyfrog wrote:Other places get so much cool stuff first. (sigh)
I wonder what else they are holding out on us?
Or what they will pull out of their hat in response to whatever the Koreans bring out.
Well, if we weren't so moribund by slap happy lawyers ready to sue at at the slightest hitch in a new product, maybe we would have new products sooner also.
I don't understand, the FDA approves drugs after a 6 week trial that turn out to later have horrific side effects but yet, they seem to be so cautious about pap machines and masks. What am I missing?

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Re: To the "Answer Team" regarding S9 Autoset and ASV therapy

Post by martinsr00 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:44 pm

49er wrote:
idamtnboy wrote:
chunkyfrog wrote:Other places get so much cool stuff first. (sigh)
I wonder what else they are holding out on us?
Or what they will pull out of their hat in response to whatever the Koreans bring out.
Well, if we weren't so moribund by slap happy lawyers ready to sue at at the slightest hitch in a new product, maybe we would have new products sooner also.
I don't understand, the FDA approves drugs after a 6 week trial that turn out to later have horrific side effects but yet, they seem to be so cautious about pap machines and masks. What am I missing?

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As a country, we seem to think that the "experts" will manage our risk, and our cares will fade into the ether. You want something guaranteed "safe" and guaranteed "effective", then FDA's for you. We pay for the nose for this -- both in blood and in treasure.

If you want to manage your own risk in consultation with your physician without the FDA horning in, you're screwed. Had a friend. His dad had incurable lung cancer. There was a clinical trial of a new medication. His dad wanted the experimental medication, but to sign on to the study, you had to sign a consent allowing them to treat you with placebos (sugar pills) so the overall study would be statistically valid. Safety has a price.