Demanding BPA Free Machines. Petition Maybe?

chunkyfrog wrote:I'm considering getting replacement tanks and hoses as often as possible; "just in case".

I have more often been leaving unused distilled water in my tank and topping off. No more. Done with that. All fresh water each day now after reading this.

Wulfman... wrote:Well, I don't have a question about it.
BUT, I don't know what material they DID use in the past or whether the manufacturers have switched to some different material formulation in their humidifier tanks in the newer machines. Only they could answer that.

But, yeah, I'm old (enough) to not have any more children (unlike what James Doohan and Tony Randall did) .


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That's one pleasure we can still enjoy! Not going to Beam any more of those into this world. Jim

i have already seen all the posts about the bpa problem on this forum 2 years ago but i still havent seen the cpap industry transition to other safer materials as in the water bottle industry. Were not talking about freemasons and conspiracies bs its the fact that it is obviously a lower cost issue for the companies to not bother or more ease of production or else they would have done it long ago and used it as a marketing plus such as bpa free. If the customers dont complain they wont do anything about it.

Stilatos wrote:i have already seen all the posts about the bpa problem on this forum 2 years ago but i still havent seen the cpap industry transition to other safer materials as in the water bottle industry. Were not talking about freemasons and conspiracies bs its the fact that it is obviously a lower cost issue for the companies to not bother or more ease of production or else they would have done it long ago and used it as a marketing plus such as bpa free. If the customers dont complain they wont do anything about it.

Stilatos, with all due respect, why are you spending time trying to convince folks for whom this is not an issue? Why not find a way to hook up with other people who feel the same way as you do and figure out how to get the changes that you want?

Just a thought.

49er

49er wrote:

Stilatos wrote:i have already seen all the posts about the bpa problem on this forum 2 years ago but i still havent seen the cpap industry transition to other safer materials as in the water bottle industry. Were not talking about freemasons and conspiracies bs its the fact that it is obviously a lower cost issue for the companies to not bother or more ease of production or else they would have done it long ago and used it as a marketing plus such as bpa free. If the customers dont complain they wont do anything about it.

Stilatos, with all due respect, why are you spending time trying to convince folks for whom this is not an issue? Why not find a way to hook up with other people who feel the same way as you do and figure out how to get the changes that you want?

Just a thought.

49er

He has an itch to scratch.

We all have itches that need to be scratched.

My itch is to wake up as many people as possible and convince them that they are ALL being ripped off by an evil corrupt corporate-fascist system gone out of control. And I don't just mean getting their wealth ripped off, I mean their civil/human rights, their future and that of their offspring, their environment ... all being ripped off while they sleep in the American Dream and worship the god of fiat money.

49er wrote:

Stilatos wrote:i have already seen all the posts about the bpa problem on this forum 2 years ago but i still havent seen the cpap industry transition to other safer materials as in the water bottle industry. Were not talking about freemasons and conspiracies bs its the fact that it is obviously a lower cost issue for the companies to not bother or more ease of production or else they would have done it long ago and used it as a marketing plus such as bpa free. If the customers dont complain they wont do anything about it.

Stilatos, with all due respect, why are you spending time trying to convince folks for whom this is not an issue? Why not find a way to hook up with other people who feel the same way as you do and figure out how to get the changes that you want?

Just a thought.

49er

Yeah Stilatos, leave all the geezers with their old, BPA-laced gonads and autistic offspring alone! They like their CPAP plastic as it is, thank you very much. Clear and full of chemicals. And sometimes they like it on the rocks too.

Make mine a double BPA please!

OK here is a partial answer -- I just got off the phone with the director of regulatory compliance of Respironics.

She said Respironics switched over to BPA-free polycarbonate humidifier tanks in around 2011. If you purchase a new replacement tank, assuming it was made in 2012 or 2013 it is likely BPA-free.

(I have to email her my serial number and model to double check if mine is one of the new BPA-free ones).

She said other parts of the breathing circuit do contain another type of similar 'plasticizer' to BPA however that is in hard plastic parts that are not exposed to water, etc, so likely have no possibility of being leached out and inhaled, etc.

It is good that (at least one of) the manufacturers have recognized the concern over the issue, and have since acted.

Folks with other brands may wish to call their manufacturers to see if they have likewise eliminated BPA. ResMed, DeVilbiss, Fisher Paykel, etc...

And please update the community here of your findings.

Wulfman... wrote:Several years ago (2010), I saved the following information. If it's already in some of the links listed in this thread, I apologize for the duplication.


Bisphenol A is a key monomer in production of polycarbonate plastic and epoxy resins. Otherwise it is used in the following polymer types: polyesters, polysulfones, and polyether ketones. Bisphenol A is also used as an antioxidant in plasticizers and as a polymerization inhibitor in PVC.

Thanks. Do you know the source for this quote?

hyperlexis wrote:Well you kind of just answered your question. The heated humidifier chambers in CPAPs are made of #7 in the list -- clear polycarbonate, no? The type your post states leaches BPA at a higher rate than others when heated.

Just to be clear.

The number is a Resin Identification Code

"7" is "other," a catch all code basically meaning not one of the other plastics with its own number.

Resin Code 7 does NOT necessarily mean polycarbonate, it means any one of a number of plastics. Many other types of plastic will be labeled "7," however, polycarb will be labeled "7."

It's usually assumed that any plastic labeled anything other than 3 or 7 will not have BPA in it, although that's not 100% sure. http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Consume ... 297954.htm

hyperlexis wrote:She said Respironics switched over to BPA-free polycarbonate humidifier tanks in around 2011. If you purchase a new replacement tank, assuming it was made in 2012 or 2013 it is likely BPA-free.

That's really funny. Polycarbonate is MADE from BPA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polycarbonate

archangle wrote:

Wulfman... wrote:Several years ago (2010), I saved the following information. If it's already in some of the links listed in this thread, I apologize for the duplication.


Bisphenol A is a key monomer in production of polycarbonate plastic and epoxy resins. Otherwise it is used in the following polymer types: polyesters, polysulfones, and polyether ketones. Bisphenol A is also used as an antioxidant in plasticizers and as a polymerization inhibitor in PVC.

Thanks. Do you know the source for this quote?

I copied and pasted that information into a Wordpad file and saved it on my computer in 2010. Unfortunately, I didn't save the source link (which I frequently do, but this time I didn't).


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Wulfman... wrote:...I copied and pasted that information into a Wordpad file and saved it on my computer in 2010. Unfortunately, I didn't save the source link (which I frequently do, but this time I didn't). ...

I believe it's from Wikipedia. The wording has since been edited, but the bones are fairly similar. (Wikipedia never stops changing.)
http://bit.ly/1bx4aFk

hyperlexis wrote:
Yeah Stilatos, leave all the geezers with their old, BPA-laced gonads and autistic offspring alone! ... snip

Geezers?

Listen here Frodo ...

Geezers are the new whippersnappers ... now go serve up some more fries!!

DreamStalker wrote:... now go serve up some more fries!!

You mean "gyros".

mollete wrote:

DreamStalker wrote:... now go serve up some more fries!!

You mean "gyros".

Nope. I mean fries.

I don't think he's advanced to a level for gyros yet.