Weight loss to reduce apnea

jdm2857 wrote:

DreamDiver wrote: I like that some foods are 0 points and filling, like string beans.

Call them haricot vert. Much more exotic.

Yes, even roughage sounds more appetizing if you say it with a Belgian accent like Hercule Poirot.
"fourrage"

Janknitz wrote: 1. When you are in the process of weight loss, LDL may be mobilized in your blood stream. It's impossible to differentiate whether it's on its way out or truly an issue. William Davis, MD, recommends waiting until weight has stabilized for at least 6 months before worrying about LDL numbers.
2. The jury is still out on how bad an increase in LDL is IF:
A. HDL increases
B. Triglycerides decrease
C. Particle size is mostly large and "fluffy"
D. Particle number doesn't rise too high
3. There is some evidence that LDL is protective to a degree. Postmenopausal women with lower LDL cholesterol are more susceptible to cancer and infection.

Yeah, he waited 6 months, he knows about particle size and all that, and it was still substantially worse. Much as I wish the LCHF diet was a panacea for everyone, I don't think it is. I think a fairly thin guy with a good LDL (and particle) doesn't gain anything besides a 6-pack stomach by becoming even thinner and having worse LDL (and particle).

Interesting article here: http://www.docsopinion.com/2013/07/01/h ... es-stupid/

SleepingUgly wrote:I agree with the low carb approach. From everything I've read, experienced, and witnessed, it's going to yield the most weight loss AND without making you hungry all the time.

That said, I am no longer recommending it cart blanche to everyone. In people who are fairly overweight, I do think it's probably the best approach. In those who are not very overweight, I recommend getting an LDL (ideally PARTICLE) tested pre-low carb/high fat diet and one after doing it for a few months. The approach seems to work well for me; however, my husband got leaner on the diet, but his desirable LDL #s became undesirable. Another friend who was thin to start with also had her LDL worsen on a LCHF diet.

I have to admit that in the 1980s I bought into the low fat approach and eating more carbs than protein, seeing my weight increase. Once I started on low carbs, low fat, low calories, and high protein, I started losing weight and dramatically so. It puts your body into ketosis, which causes you to burn fat instead of glucose, but you have to drink half your body weight in ounces of water. I had to temporarily go off ketosis when I had my gall bladder surgery and discovered that I felt hunger, something I never felt while in ketosis. Once I get close to my target weight, I'll have to transition again to eating a regular diet where my body will burn glucose instead of fat.

I had been taking 40 mg. of simvastatin and my doctor recently changed my medication to 10 mg. of simvastatin, and told me he plans to wean me off simvastatin completely. We found that my total cholesterol level was 111-115 which my doctor said was too low. He wants it to remain about 149. I can only conclude that high protein, low carb, should be accompanied by a low fat, not low fat diet. That means no peanut butter or fatty meats like bacon, but lean cuts of beef, pork, and chicken, not to mention fish. No butter. No starches because women tend to be starch intolerant.

So, I have to agree that those who need to lose a larger amount of weight will benefit from a high protein low carb diet, but I'd also recommend getting regular blood work, and consulting with a doctor on this, not to mention a nutritionist. People in the weight loss program I'm currently in did not find success with WW, which is a great program, but doesn't work for everyone. That's the trick about losing weight - our bodies are all different and one size doesn't fit all even in weight loss programs.

Correction:

I meant: I can only conclude that high protein, low carb, should be accompanied by a low fat, not high fat diet.

After all, if your body is burning fat instead of glucose, you don't need to add unreasonably high fat to your diet because you are basically living off fat and protein. That's okay temporarily but not okay in the long run.

Yes, the high fat aspect of the LCHF diet seemed to raise my husband's LDL (and particle). Obviously the low carb aspect is fine.

A no fat diet produces irresistible cravings, while high fat stresses the liver.
IMHO, the best amount of fat is just enough to quell the cravings that sabotage any diet.