Micheal Jackson

Hello All,

Check this out.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/21/showbiz/j ... ?hpt=hp_t2

I think plastic surgery on MJ's nose ultimately destroyed his sleep. The brain needs back some back pressure feedback from nasal breathing during sleep. His nasal airway was routed out to the point it had little to no resistance for feedback signal to the brain. This cause the brain to bump him into lighter, non REM sleep. He probably suffered for a long time with reduced REM which led to his taking propofol and early death.

My theory anyway... TF

A lot of Michael Jackson's lifestyle can be attributed to poor medical choices. There's a theory out there that his permanent state of adolescence was due to anti-acne medications he was given during puberty. Guy was a teen celebrity, record execs like money...Hard to sell a pimply teen, so...yeah..

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 31967.html

Darn good theory. I spoke with a sleepsurgurgeon who talked about open nose syndrome. Its not something you want,
thats for sure.

Ironically jackson was ahead of his time on hyperbaric oxygenation. He was widely mocked, but its being proven
as the possible breakthrough in various treatments etc.

I wonder how much of jacksons problems were caused by him and how much doctors.

I think he probably lived an extreme lifestyle like a lot of eccentric celebs---- meds they dont need,
weird therapies, poor sleeping cycles, diets, anorexia, etc.

He was about as self desctructive as a belushi or a chris farley but in a different way.

He wasn't responsible for his actions, none of us are, this is the U. S. A. our elected leaders aren't responsible, except for running the greatest country in history into bankruptcy and the ground.

We as a people need to take responsibility back. The guilty need to be held accountable, all of them, tried by their peers, and delt with swiftly as needed.

Everyone that paid to see his performances, is guilty of allowing what he did to continue to himself, children and his monkey! BTW, we are still paying for Obama, and Congress, and the UnSupreme Court, to rewrite the Bill of Rights, and Constitution. The goal is to impose Martial Law, so the people who ruined our country, can make it the Dictatorship they want.

The Sheeples still live with their small heads in the sand. Welcome to the New U.S. A., Live Long and Prosper, I Will Do Neither! Jim

I often wondered WHY Michael Jackson was so desperate to look so much like his sister. He certainly was one mixed-up, messed-up, tortured individual. I was never a fan. I'm not familiar w/his music. His crotch-grabbing turned me off immediaely. I seldom paid any attention at all to news coverage about him.

I had wondered if all his nasal surgeries could have affected his nighttime sleeping. I liked Michael Jackson as an artist, and I always felt bad about the high price he paid for stardom, a path that was chosen for him long before it was his choice to make. Who knows how mentally stable we would have been if our circumstances had been his? (or anyone else's for that matter) Not to say he wasn't responsible for his adult choices, just that by then there were deeply embedded emotional issues. Regardless of the whys for any of Michael's personal choices, my many year history of horrid sleep due to my limb movements leaves me compassionate toward the desperation anyone chronically sleepless must feel, especially if they are still expected to perform under public scrutiny at a pre-established level. Whether suffering is a consequence of conduct or not, the suffering is no less real.

kteague wrote:I had wondered if all his nasal surgeries could have affected his nighttime sleeping. I liked Michael Jackson as an artist, and I always felt bad about the high price he paid for stardom, a path that was chosen for him long before it was his choice to make. Who knows how mentally stable we would have been if our circumstances had been his? (or anyone else's for that matter) Not to say he wasn't responsible for his adult choices, just that by then there were deeply embedded emotional issues. Regardless of the whys for any of Michael's personal choices, my many year history of horrid sleep due to my limb movements leaves me compassionate toward the desperation anyone chronically sleepless must feel, especially if they are still expected to perform under public scrutiny at a pre-established level. Whether suffering is a consequence of conduct or not, the suffering is no less real.

Kathy, you are always the voice of compassion here.

I think his problems stem more from his early success and his abusive upbringing. Having those sorts of mental issues combined with the freedom of being mega-rich allowed him to be free of the constraints of normal society. There was no-one to tell him, "You have a problem, seek help." It's actually a common phenomenon with the mega-rich and especially children who become rich through celebrity and can't adjust to a normal life growing up. They begin believing that mores don't apply to them and so you get eccentricities of behaviour surfacing where in most people they would be curtailed by peers and laws.