PRSystem One Heated Tube Humidifier numbers to temperature

hyperlexis · Post by **hyperlexis** » Mon May 27, 2013 4:06 pm

Pugsy wrote:
squid13 wrote:I was asking about the 60 series heated tube humidifier on how you control the temperature you want and the humidity you want. If I wanted 8 degrees above room temperature what number would that be?
If I do my math correctly assuming that 16 degrees above room temp is the highest setting of 5 and assuming there are 4 degree segments..
But that doesn't make sense because one would assume that 1 would give 4 degrees above room humidity but maybe I am assuming wrong. I have never seen an actual temp correlation in this format from Respironics
If we work up from a setting of 1...assuming that one is 4 degrees..there's not enough 4 degree segments to get to 16.
So I am also confused.
1....would be 0 degrees above room temp but that makes no sense
2....would be 4 degrees above room temp
3....would be 8 degrees above room temp
4....would be 12 degrees above room temp
5....would be 16 degrees above room temp

makes me wonder if they aren't in 4 degree segments after initial setting and assume 5 setting gives 16 degrees above
1...would be 4 degrees above room temp
2...would be ?
3...would be ?
4...would be ?
5...would be 16 degrees

So I don't know exactly. Hadn't really thought that much about it and sure haven't seen anything other than the statement about 4 to 16 degrees above statement but have never seen anything that show what a setting offers in actual increments.

I don't have any way to try to measure the hose delivered temperature either.

The 1 on dial = 0 degrees temp above room temp does make sense because there are times when someone wants to/has to use the heated tube, but keep the tube heating shut off, while still adding auto humidity to the air (1-3 setting). Unfortunately there is no "0" on the dial, so they had to use 1. Simple, huh.... LOL.

sawinglogz · Post by **sawinglogz** » Tue May 28, 2013 5:10 am

What happens if you use a non-heated hose (say, a plain backup) on the heated-tube humidifier? Will the humidifier still work?

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Tue May 28, 2013 5:40 am

sawinglogz wrote:What happens if you use a non-heated hose (say, a plain backup) on the heated-tube humidifier? Will the humidifier still work?

Yes. It will still work but it will be limited to functioning like the PR S1 50 series machines function with the new System One Humidification mode. So settings 0 through 5 on the humidifier control. With 5 being the highest setting. Zero would be turning the humidifier heat set to off position.
I don't know if there would be a way to get Classic Mode with heat only.
In a little while I will check it out on my 660 machine to see what the options are and report back what options I get.
I used it for a few nights without the heated hose (used a regular hose) until I got my heated hose upgrade kit.

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Tue May 28, 2013 5:57 am

Pugsy wrote:In a little while I will check it out on my 660 machine to see what the options are and report back what options I get.

The 660 machine with the heated hose upgrade kit installed.
When using a regular hose...you get the choices that are available to the 50 series users.
New system one humidification mode with settings from 0 to 5. Zero turns the heater plate off.
5 is the maximum delivered humidity. This uses ambient room humidity sensors and thus less water than compared to Classic mode.
You can also turn the new system one humidification mode off and then the machine works in Classic mode (there is a C in front of the humidity selection in the setup menu. Which uses heat only...no humidity sensors. Delivers the greatest amount of humidity at max of 5 and setting of 0 turns off the heater.

sawinglogz · Post by **sawinglogz** » Tue May 28, 2013 8:52 am

Pugsy wrote:The 660 machine with the heated hose upgrade kit installed.

Is there any difference between the heated hose humidifier and a regular humidifier with the heated host upgrade kit?

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Tue May 28, 2013 9:16 am

sawinglogz wrote: Is there any difference between the heated hose humidifier and a regular humidifier with the heated host upgrade kit?

Not sure I understand question.
The upgrade kit includes...new lid for humidifier and the new lid has an electrical connection that plugs into a little thing on the humidifier.
The heated hose which plugs into the humidifier on the lid.
And a new power supply.

So my 660 came with just the regular lid and regular hose and lower watt power supply. The heated hose humidifier requires more power.

The main guts or box of the humidifier are the same...just the lid is different.
The 60 series machine already has the software built in to use the heated hose option. The 60 series humidifier already has the little spot where the electrical component of the lid plugs into the box. It is unused with the regular lid.

chunkyfrog · Post by **chunkyfrog** » Tue May 28, 2013 9:27 am

I agree with 80% being the default on the Climateline.
This past week our humidity has hovered between 76% and 80% and I've used hardly any water.
So there is no automatic setting on the PR?

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Tue May 28, 2013 9:54 am

chunkyfrog wrote:So there is no automatic setting on the PR?

Not that we are told in the system one humidification system without heated hose option settings.
Recently I have been using the 750 machine in the default system one humidification mode set to 5 which is max and I assume probably 80% as I haven't been using much water either. Sleeping with windows open and humidity has been high with even some rain.
Normally if windows shut and with either the furnace or air conditioner on I will use almost all the water in one night.

jencat824 · Post by **jencat824** » Tue May 28, 2013 10:58 am

OK, I've read this over & conclude that I reallyyyyyyyyyyy suck at math!

I have the 560 with the heated hose & use the setting 1 for my best comfort level.

My hubby has the 560 without the heated hose & uses the setting 4 for his best comfort level.

Our bedroom is cool (around 68 degrees) and dry (very little humidity, I have asthma).

Are we doing this right? We are both comfortable & using different settings in the same room. He has a FF mask & I'm using nasal pillows. I can't handle a setting above 1, I get too much moisture in my nasal pillows. He needs more than me (I think he needs a heated hose, he doesn't want one).

If anyone can see anything we aren't doing right, let me know.

Jen

Pugsy · Post by **Pugsy** » Tue May 28, 2013 2:35 pm

jencat824 wrote:We are both comfortable & using different settings in the same room.

That's all that matters...you are both happy at whatever setting you are using.
Different people have different wants and needs...even in the same household.

I would also have to use a setting of 4 or 5 without the heated hose....that's what I am using right now.
There is no right or wrong setting...it's all about what works best for each individual.

BTW....heated hose won't necessarily stop the condensation at the mask level from the moisture in our own exhaled breath.
It all depends on air temp...heated hose temp...and how much moisture gets exhaled with our own breathing.
It's common to have the condensation in the nasal pillow portion of the mask...it's a small area so easily cooled by surrounding room temp so that moisture is released during cooling.

jencat824 wrote: I have the 560 with the heated hose & use the setting 1 for my best comfort level.

When using the heated hose option you should have 2 choices available...one for humidity (1 through 3) and one for temp on the heated hose (1 through 6) I wish Respironics had used temp in degrees instead of the way they did things.

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