Foam Collar vs Chinstrap

chunkyfrog wrote:Nan: +1
Another point avi has gotten wrong:
(maybe pilots are issued better equipment than infantry)
http://www.operation-helmet.org/

Government Issue (GI) military helmet pads are much too hard and cause severe headaches under the weight of the combat helmet. As a result, combat troops on patrol or convoy take their helmets off or release the chins strap for pain relief. Hard to concentrate on a dangerous job when you have a migraine-type headache.

chunkyfrog wrote:Nan: +1
Another point avi has gotten wrong:
(maybe pilots are issued better equipment than infantry)
http://www.operation-helmet.org/

Helmets can create points of pressure and shear loading on the head. The head doesn’t have a lot of fat for padding. Especially for those of us (like me) who have oddly shaped heads – mine is long and narrow – prolonged helmet wearing can be uncomfortable and even cause headaches. This is especially true for workers who have to wear helmets on the job. There has even been a study on this: “Helmet-Related, External Compression Headache Among Police Officers in Rio de Janeiro.”

External compression headaches can occur when any head wear puts continuous pressure on your forehead or scalp.
Common culprits of external compression headaches include tight hats, helmets, headbands and goggles. These headaches are sometimes known by other names that are specific to the type of equipment causing your headache, such as "swim-goggle headache" or "football-helmet headache."
With external compression headaches, the solution is as obvious as the cause. Simply remove the head wear causing the pressure.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/extern ... es/DS00642

External compression headache is an infrequently cited cranial neuralgia resulting from continued stimulation of the cutaneous nerves caused by the application of pressure over the forehead or scalp. The headache can result from wearing a tight band around the head, a tight hat, or sports goggles, for example. The diagnostic criteria for external compression headache are summarized in the Table 1.[1] They include a constant nonpulsating head pain felt in the area subjected to pressure that increases over minutes, is not associated with other symptoms, and often disappears within 1 hour after removing the causative stimulus. If the causative stimulus is prolonged, external compression can lead to a more severe, migrainous headache or to a full-blown migraine attack in predisposed patients. This is a primary-type headache, not associated with organic cranial or intracranial disease, and thus does not require further investigation when the diagnostic criteria are fulfilled and the intermittent presentation is clear.[1,2] The goal of this study was to evaluate headache in police officers subsequent to wearing helmets during ordinary patrolling assignments.

avi123 wrote:Nate, in my case I can be treated adequately WITOUT a chinstrap or more adequatly WITH it.

Giving up my chinstrapnow I account for using one for a year and getting used to keeping my mouth shut.

I am a plain OSA sufferer who had about a 42 for AHI before CPAPing, three years ago.

Here are my results from last night with NO chinsrap. Notice the one time leak above the redline:

My opinion about Nate's post:

=> headaches in the mornings are from other reasons than chinstraps
=> air force pilot's usually don't complain of headaches from their helmets
=> that chinstraps are constricting blood flow inside the brain is most likely absord
=> having dry mouth could come from other sources such as Rx, getting old, etc.
also, having drymouth indicates that the chinstrap IS working and it does not depend on the humidifier setting, just accumulation of Bacteria. use mouthwash
=> shave off your messy beard and maustage and then try again. Even if you're a sort of a Rabbi or just a Bolshevik
=> Since you're using nasal pillows mask try this mask without a chinstrap:
(I plan to try adding such a chinstrap support to my present mask)

nanwilson wrote:Nate
You are just too nice of a gentleman to give Avi the reply he deserves. " Beards rule!!!!!!!" Quote from Duck Dynasty

avi123 wrote:Dostoevsky:

Respironics OptiLife CPAP mask

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywor ... ctzmbs74_p

Make two tzepes with your beard and try tying them to your pyes.

StuUnderPressure wrote:Video on how to measure for the proper fitting for a soft cervical collar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGexSRSMpv0