How to get rid of CPAP?

Firstly, wish all of you a merry X-mas!

I have a CPAP, every night i used it and continued it for 3 years. But recently i found i can't sleep if without this machine.
For example, when i have some short travel,maybe only 1 or 2 days in near city, for convenience, i normally won't take the CPAP with me, but I found i can not sleep well on that two nights, which really frustraded/depressed me!

Now i really want to get rid of the machine? how can i? Does losing 20kg is effective?

If you die, you won't need XPAP anymore, your post makes little sense. You used it for 3 years and when you don't use it for 2 days you feel worse, Duh!

Losing weight usually has little effect on most people, strange after 3 years to drown in De-Nile, you have slipped into a drifter undertow. Keep Stroking, or you may end up having a real stroke. Jim

GUEST2 wrote:Firstly, wish all of you a merry X-mas!

I have a CPAP, every night i used it and continued it for 3 years. But recently i found i can't sleep if without this machine.
For example, when i have some short travel,maybe only 1 or 2 days in near city, for convenience, i normally won't take the CPAP with me, but I found i can not sleep well on that two nights, which really frustraded/depressed me!

Now i really want to get rid of the machine? how can i? Does losing 20kg is effective?

What I can tell you is that being able to analyze my CPAP data with breathing volume (i.e. CO2 maintenance issue) awareness and doing eucapnic breathing retraining for a year and reducing stress in my life has enabled weight loss and a reduction in needed pressure from 15 cm/h2o to 8 cm/h2o.

For the first time in nine years I think there may be hope I will see the end of my need for CPAP - but - not holding my breath (that would be an apnea!).

I do hope we find a way!

GUEST2 wrote:Firstly, wish all of you a merry X-mas!

I have a CPAP, every night i used it and continued it for 3 years. But recently i found i can't sleep if without this machine.
For example, when i have some short travel,maybe only 1 or 2 days in near city, for convenience, i normally won't take the CPAP with me, but I found i can not sleep well on that two nights, which really frustraded/depressed me!

Now i really want to get rid of the machine? how can i? Does losing 20kg is effective?

Guest2,

I am also very perplexed. Why not buy a light backup on either cpap.com or Craig's List since I assume you have been using the machine without a problem?

As one who has greatly struggled to adjust to pap treatment, personally, if I was able to stay sleep on the machine, even though it is a pain the neck, I wouldn't let out of town trips prevent me using the machine.

If you're still vehemently opposed to taking your machine out of town, you could look into provent or a dental device.

49er

thank you three quick replies.

Some doctor ever told me,if you can lose 20kg, it must have some positive effect on you. i also remember on the CPAP mannual,it said this machine is not a permanent solution,the patient should try to change the bad living way to improve the snoring(losing weight). And my brother 's weight is in the normal range,he has no this severe snoring problem like me.
My problem is i can't really manager to lose weight--i can't control my mouth.

i came here want to check is there any successful sample that relief the snoring through losing weight,i believe it must be but maybe that guy won't log on CPAP,com any more.

thank you & regards,
doug.

Your doctors sound sadly out of date - many people of normal or even lesser weight have apnea because it's generally as much of an anatomical problem as a weight problem (which in fact is now thought to possibly be a result of OSA, rather than a cause). You may feel better losing 20 lb or even 20 stone, but the likelihood that it'll 'cure' OSA is very slim.

But technology's moving fast, possibly in a few years we won't need Cpap, but until then you need to stick with it... maybe try a new mask or different machines (things have changed a lot in a very short time).

Adrian Peterson, a running back for the Minnesota Vikings, and contender for MVP this season, is in top physical condition.

He has sleep apnea.

You can try losing the weight and see what happens, but odds are that the cpap is your friend for life. And it IS your friend, and not your enemy.

GUEST3 wrote:
My problem is i can't really manager to lose weight--i can't control my mouth.

doug.

Read a bit about gherlin and leptin. These two hormones have a big impact on your appetite and your feeling of satiation. When you don't sleep well these hormones are out of balance and you have a voracious appetite.

Your out-of-control appetite makes me concerned that your CPAP therapy is not working well and your sleep is still disturbed. Do you have a machine with data capabilities to monitor the CPAP effectiveness? Most of the forum regulars demand this for their own therapy.

BTW, my husband and I are slim and both of us have obstructive sleep apnea. Narrow airways cause the problem and then the problem causes weight gain because of the gherlin/leptin issue.

i also remember on the CPAP mannual,it said this machine is not a permanent solution,

Check the manual again. I don't think you will find this sentiment in any CPAP manual.

Julie wrote:Your doctors sound sadly out of date - many people of normal or even lesser weight have apnea because it's generally as much of an anatomical problem as a weight problem (which in fact is now thought to possibly be a result of OSA, rather than a cause). You may feel better losing 20 lb or even 20 stone, but the likelihood that it'll 'cure' OSA is very slim.

But technology's moving fast, possibly in a few years we won't need Cpap, but until then you need to stick with it... maybe try a new mask or different machines (things have changed a lot in a very short time).

very true. i'm a normal weight and i have severe apnea. my doctor told me it's an anatomical/possibly genetic issue in my case. if you've been using cpap for three years and it's been helpful just keep on using it. i've only been on it for 6 weeks but can't imagine going a night without it by choice.

Losing weight had no effect on my apnea, save my (silicone) masks fit differently.
The effect on my general well-being was astounding!
I have bought a travel/off-the-grid machine (Intellipap Autoadjust),
so I never have to sleep without "air support".
It's like getting a perm: What Nature forgets, we can make better--we have the technology.

Thank you all, i am almost convinced to forget the idea to get rid of the machine.

However, i think the reasonable weight is some garantee to have a good health, not only for curing sleep apnea. Some statistics report can't be the excuse to reject the healthy living way.
Machine is machine, people can't be depending on a machine, it disobeys the nature law.

GUEST2 wrote:Thank you all, i am almost convinced to forget the idea to get rid of the machine.

However, i think the reasonable weight is some garantee to have a good health, not only for curing sleep apnea. Some statistics report can't be the excuse to reject the healthy living way.
Machine is machine, people can't be depending on a machine, it disobeys the nature law.

Getting down to a healthy weight is always a good idea. Nobody said otherwise. Just be aware that it usually doesn't cure sleep apnea. With many people, the weight gain is caused by the sleep apnea. Not the other way around. And there are many skinny people with sleep apnea too.

Some people do get to give up their cpap for awhile (weight gain doesn't always stay off, and people's sleep apnea changes over time also). Even people who are "cured" with surgery often need cpap again within a few years.

The only way to know for sure is with a sleep study. So, if you lose the weight, get a sleep study to confirm before you quit cpap. And then do sleep studies again, every few years, to make sure you aren't getting worse and need it again.

And I will continue to make efforts to lose my spare weight.
Now I only eat vegetable and fish-- no meat. It makes me feel good.

I will keep you updated, wait for my good news.

GUEST2 wrote: Machine is machine, people can't be depending on a machine, it disobeys the nature law.

So we should get rid of glasses? And false teeth? What about my mothers wheelchair? What do you think of her insulin meter?

And I guess the computer, car, my lights, and my heating system. Though since it is currently -20c I think I will keep the heating system. And maybe the lights since the sun doesn't rise until 8:30 am and it gets dark around 4pm.

So we should get rid of glasses? And false teeth? What about my mothers wheelchair? What do you think of her insulin meter?

And I guess the computer, car, my lights, and my heating system. Though since it is currently -20c I think I will keep the heating system. And maybe the lights since the sun doesn't rise until 8:30 am and it gets dark around 4pm.

They are different things,maybe not comparable.
if you can cure your myopia/hyeropia, you will still stick to wear a glasses?

Wearing a mask to sleep do you think it is a fantastic thing ? at least i think it's very uncomfortable and very noisy.

The majority of the sleep spnea is becuase the patient's neck is too fat which causing the air way becoming narrow, then the patient breathe the less level Oxygen than normal, it's a physical problem, not a neuropathic problem, i mean most of patients.
(We can't use minority to deny majority, right?)

Why not choose/try a better way to alleviate the spnea like losing weight or correct sleeping posture if it is effective?
Machine is the last way if those curing is not effective just like glasses, wheel chair... (PC,car and airconditioner i also like, they are used to enjoy life better. )