What's the difference between S8 machines.

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What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by My_Dream » Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:57 pm

I presently own the Resmed S8 Elite machine and need to find a temporary replacement. What is the difference between the"

S8;

Elite
Compact
Escape
Autoset 11
Escape 11
etc.

They're all S8 but different versions being what?

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by sol » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:15 pm

Autoset and Elite are data capable machine ... The rest are Not

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by Pugsy » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:17 pm

S8 Elite...is a full data straight CPAP machine
S8 Autoset II is a full data auto adjusting pressure machine (so has APAP mode and CPAP mode)

S8 Escape is the bare bones hours of use only data machine
as is the Compact which doesn't even have EPR exhale relief if I remember right
Escape II...I don't remember what the difference but probably very minor.

For a backup machine any of them will do but if you want full efficacy data then of course just the Elite or Autoset II

http://www.resmed.com/us/products/s9_se ... nc=dealers
If you go to this link and click on the Specifications tab you can compare the various models to see which one offers what.

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by archangle » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:22 pm

Dream, do you check your AHI and other numbers with the old machine?

If not, any of the ones listed should be able to deliver the pressure you need just fine.

If you want data, you want the Elite or Autoset.

When you're looking for a permanent replacement, don't get an S8. S9 AutoSet or S9 Elite offer much better data and other good features.

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by My_Dream » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:37 pm

Thanks sol.

I appreciate the link Pugsy, as well as the detailed differences, at this point I don't care about data, but all the other features mine has.

archangle, Is AHI the amount of times you stopped breathing is so then I was told I went from 85 times per hour (sleep study) to 4 times per hour at a setting of 13.7 and I'm ok with that.

No I'm not looking for a replacement until March 26 2013 (insurance coverage)a t which point it sounds as though the S9 autoset or S9 Elite is a good upgrade.

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by archangle » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:48 pm

My_Dream wrote:archangle, Is AHI the amount of times you stopped breathing is so then I was told I went from 85 times per hour (sleep study) to 4 times per hour at a setting of 13.7 and I'm ok with that.
I think your S8 Elite will tell you on the display what your AHI is. S8 Escape, Escape II, or Compact won't do this.

It sounds like you weren't using this feature on the old one anyway.

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by RandyJ » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:58 pm

I believe the S8's that had the "II" as part of the name came out later and had the Easy-Breathe technology (new algorithm).

As was said above, you only want an Autoset or Elite. The other models are bricks.

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by My_Dream » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:01 pm

Hello archangle, at present my display states "System Error' call service" therefore obtaining any other information is very difficult so I went with memory.

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by archangle » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:13 pm

My_Dream wrote:Hello archangle, at present my display states "System Error' call service" therefore obtaining any other information is very difficult so I went with memory.
What I was asking was "were you checking the AHI with your S8 Elite before?" If you're not going to check it anyway, the extra data available with the Elite vs. Escape doesn't matter to you?

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by My_Dream » Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:55 pm

Hello Archangle,

Yes I was using this feature, that's how I know I went down to 4 timer per hour. Since this will be a temporary replacement I don't need that feature for the next 5 months but I do need it to go to a setting of 14 and the EPR exhale relief feature based on the high setting.

Thanks again for the reply as this is useful information.

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by My_Dream » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:13 pm

I found a couple choices on Craigslist,

The pricing is the same between an Escape 11 which has the EPR exhale release and Elite which is what I have/had. I guess the Elite is the better choice?

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by Pugsy » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:28 pm

My_Dream wrote:The pricing is the same between an Escape 11 which has the EPR exhale release and Elite which is what I have/had. I guess the Elite is the better choice?
Hours of use maybe? Either one low hours?
Unless huge difference in hours of use I would go with the Elite though.....just in case you do want the additional data that it offers.

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by archangle » Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:39 am

What's the price? Post links to the CL listing if you want.

Don't limit yourself to ResMed for a short term replacement.

For Brantford/Toronto, I also see a listing for a Respironics Auto M series for $100, but the picture looks like an M series model DS100. The M series is roughly equal to the S8 machines. The DS100 machine has no data, and no exhale relief, but it would probably blow air just fine until you get a good machine.

There was also a Philips Respironics PRS1 Pro for $300, but the date was October 6. Maybe it's still available. The PRS1 pro would be a good manual CPAP with full data.

You can also buy a cheap CPAP online if the local CL price is too high.

This does bring up an important point. Be careful that CL buys are what they say they are. Even an honest seller might be confused about what machine they have. For instance, the M series DS100 machine doesn't say the model name on the top anywhere. Someone looking online to figure out what they have might not know how to tell one from the other.

Then, of course, there are the dishonest CL sellers.

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by My_Dream » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:54 am

Pugsy,

I've asked that question and all have replied, "I don't know how to check".

I'd like to stick with the Elite as that is what I have and am familiar with.

archangle,

I've narrowed it down to these;

Down to $200

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell ... Z373873440

Down to $150.00

http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-se ... Z385263358

Down to $250.00

http://london.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell- ... Z415299886

No reply on price other then "it's still available"

http://kitchener.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-se ... Z419455130

$150.00 Receieved no reply yet.

http://london.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell- ... Z426380733


These are only on Kijiji so I do have quite a few choices. Thanks for the infomation on the Philips, I'm not familiar with this one.


My lovely wife has told me either get a machine today............or else! I know it's hard on us, but I can image how she feels.

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Re: What's the difference between S8 machines.

Post by Pugsy » Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:19 am

The machine hours is in the clinical setup menu but I don't know exactly where with the S8 machines.
How to get to the clinical setup menu.....
"ResMed S8 Compact, S8 Elite, S8 AutoSet Vantage & AutoSet Spirit: Press the right and down arrows simultaneously for about 3 seconds until the word "clinical" appears. Select Menu, then use the left and right arrows to cycle through the settings. Use the up and down arrows to make adjustments."

The provider manual should tell where the hours of use is and you can request one here
http://www.apneaboard.com/adjust-cpap-p ... tup-manual

Since you are kind of under the gun the number of hours may not be all that big of a deal but it is a way of checking out those "used only 10 nights" ads.

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