Magnets to treat osa

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Ellen
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magnets

Post by Ellen » Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:21 pm

Rooster - I wasn't making fun of your magnet idea and they really do help for pain - much research behind them. I just wasn't thinking of them in terms of opposites on each side of airway.
Right now tonight, just short of 2 weeks into treatment, I feel like crap, my face is all goobered up from fighting with ff masks at night and HEY WHAT THE HECK - maybe magnets really are the answer.

PS - Rooster don't come to Wyoming yet, we just got another Spring snow
20" - you might want to wait until May or June - were you serious or just joking - there are some great places in Wyoming, especially if you are into fishing or backpacking - I can send you to some incredible places in the Wind River Range (Pinedale)....................really!!!

Ellen

BetterBreathinBob
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Post by BetterBreathinBob » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:57 pm

Well Mr Magnet, you're almost on the right track about correcting OSA. In my opinion the future will see implants in the back of the throat that will keep the muscles stimulated and taut, thus stopping OSA. Some type of electronic sensor that will charge the muscle and then it will slightly tighten and allow the airway to remain open.

Research is ongoing but for now CPAP is the king.


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Post by 3isles » Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:56 am

http://www.statehealthclips.com/PressRe ... 14_UHC.htm

I had read on the CPParent board that someone had been having success with Estim on the Throat. The above is a link to a place thats using Estim to improve swallowing to help stroke victims and others relearn to eat. Not exactly the same muscles, but maybe it would work for apneas?

Here's a blurb from the article:

During treatment, the patient receives mild external stimulation from the hand-held device that has two small electrodes attached to the patient’s neck and face. The patient feels a tingling that changes to a pulling sensation as the treatment progresses.

“The electrical stimulation strengthens and retrains muscles that control swallowing,” says Ms. Freed, who performs e-stim on dysphagia patients. “No other therapies for dysphagia have proven to be more effective than electrical stimulation. Some patients are able to begin swallowing normally after three treatment sessions, depending on the severity of their conditions.”


Its interesting

Cathy
On cpap May 2005 pressure 13
on bipap February 2008
current machine: Resp BiPap Auto/Biflex
max I:25 Min E: 8 (no really 9 shh)
former maching polaris EX (boat anchor)
masks:
Sleepnet IQ w/ now extinct holey cap headgear
Fisher Paykel Opus

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RestInSeattle
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Post by RestInSeattle » Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:33 pm

I posted the following link, as some OSA sufferers are also "recipients" of an MRI examination for other medical reasons. It would be very important to have all medical personel informed as in regards to these implants and any MRI procedure.

http://orthopedics.about.com/od/hipknee ... /f/mri.htm

In addition would be the security alarms at airports, etc.. Expect to be further inconvienced by security staff than just over the CPAP equipment itself.

If this really works, I'd eventually be interested, but the above would always be on my mind.


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Post by roster » Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:49 pm

3isles wrote:http://www.statehealthclips.com/PressRe ... 14_UHC.htm

I had read on the CPParent board that someone had been having success with Estim on the Throat. The above is a link to a place thats using Estim to improve swallowing to help stroke victims and others relearn to eat. Not exactly the same muscles, but maybe it would work for apneas?

Here's a blurb from the article:

During treatment, the patient receives mild external stimulation from the hand-held device that has two small electrodes attached to the patient’s neck and face. The patient feels a tingling that changes to a pulling sensation as the treatment progresses.

“The electrical stimulation strengthens and retrains muscles that control swallowing,” says Ms. Freed, who performs e-stim on dysphagia patients. “No other therapies for dysphagia have proven to be more effective than electrical stimulation. Some patients are able to begin swallowing normally after three treatment sessions, depending on the severity of their conditions.”


Its interesting

Cathy
Hey, I would like to get hooked up to the "whole body" e-stim device. While it's curing my osa, I could finally get a well-toned body.

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Post by Darth Vader Look » Wed Apr 19, 2006 4:40 am

Magnet implants sound great but the problem lies in attaching them properly. Raw earth magnets are very strong attraction wise and would be the magnet of choice. When you set magnets up to repel the magnets tend to want to turn and have opposite poles attract. This is exactly what happened when that young kid swallowed the magnets from the toy set, they rotated so that opposite poles attracted and did a clog job on his intestines. Imagine the effect on your throat should the magnets do this.