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Post by Brent Hutto » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:29 pm

Linda3032 wrote::lol: Tom has the tenacity of a Pit Bull.
I tell you Linda, if he posts here tomorrow and says he used the Swift again tonight--pressure sore and all--maybe you ought to change that to a Rabid Pit Bull

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Post by roztom » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:42 pm



Depending on how the Nare feels:

Tom: "Hello NARE, How you feeling today?"

Nare Resp: *#*%# !!!

Tom: "Really. Are you sure?"

Nare: #%^&*@.

Tom: You don't say. It really can't be THAT bad. I mean - you're just one Nare.

Nare: Snort, drip.

Tom: "Well, if you feel THAT way - why don't you just FACE IT.
"NARE-y a day goes by without you making a fuss."

Nare: I didn't ask for this - Everything was FINE until YOU wanted to sleep.

Tom: "OH, yea !! Step outside.

Nare: (Sniffling) Please don't hurt me.

Tom: How can I hurt you - when you're too busy hurting me?

(to be continued, hopefully not)

Pounding the Nare,

Tom
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Post by Linda3032 » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:44 pm

Stop, you're killing me.

The nare is a "nare do well"

Yuk Yuk Yuk

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castor oil

Post by snork1 » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:47 pm

I don't think I would have adapted to the Swift without alternating with another interface. (activa in my case).

Not that it really is pertinent, but usually it is a good idea to stay away from petroleum products on plastic, for long term use. Of course long term use may not be an issue in your case.

I also probably would not have adapted to the Swift without castor bean oil for a nose lube, which is plant based and does not seem to react to plastic but actually soothes and heals the nose when used. Unfortunately people seem to absolutely avoid castor oil because it sounds like my preferred Castrol oil that I use in my car.

I buy my castor oil mail order from Swansons vitamins because its only $5 for a big ole bottle, versus the tiny bottles in the "digestive aids" section of the local drugstore.

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Post by roztom » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:59 pm

Snork:

YOu changed your Avitar. Almost didn't recognize you.

I have been switching off with my Mirage Nasal but I like having a minimum on my face.

O: made an interesting suggestion about the Breeze - it is customizable which might work for me.

I have not given up - in fact I'm expecting a Heated hose so I am committed - maybe I'm just headed towards being committed.

Swift 8 Tom 4

Thanks everyone for the great suggestions.

SO Linda you want a Swift to abandon in the woods, maybe drop down a well somewhere?

Tom

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Post by SleepDaddy » Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:35 pm

I have had good luck with the Swift...started 50 days ago....used the medium pillows since day one.....used Ayr Gel on the few days where I noticed a little soreness....I sleep on my back and switch often to both sides during the night....I have routed the hose over the top of my bed's headboard and use the Swift hose in the up position (with velcro fastener provided). I do get an occasional leak, but slightly changing my head position always cures it....I have never had even the slightest hint of rainout.

May try either the Aura or Comfort Lite 2 when I get my next mask just to see what I may be missing. However, I must say I feel pretty lucky to be doing so well with the Swift right out of the gate. I decided to try it based on the good feedback on this forum, indicating it was a good place for a beginner such as myself to start.

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Post by chdurie2 » Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:56 pm

snork1:

i believe The Swift is rubber, not plastic, so it will absorb just about anything that comes near it. maybe the chemical gurus here can tell us which it would absorb/destroy more of, petroleum jelly or oil. after just cleaning my Swift, I see a tiny bit of yellow near the nare edge, where the pillow has wrongly been in my nose, but that yellow may not be anything chemical.

tom:

what are you going to do for entertainment once you buy an aura, breeze and nasal aire II and conclude that is as good as it gets?

last week, i was as over the edge as you are, pardon me, when i bought several types of body tape to try to tape my mask on without the headgear. i have since abandoned that project in favor of buying a UMFF on ebay, and in the interim, using my F&P 431 as an alternate to Swift--while feeling like i am wearing a motorcycle helmet to bed.

i think that where dr. colin sullivan took a wrong turn in cpap development is when he added the the mask. i think the idea of a mask is inherently defective. i think dr. sullivan should go back to the vacuum cleaner with the nose prongs and perfect the idea of having the nose prongs go directly in the nose from the tube without the mask. i could be wrong, but i think he is making us spend a lot of money fruitlessly. meanwhile, i will casually consider an aura, breeze and nasal aire II in the future.

so while you are better than television for entertainment, i think you are exhausting yourself.


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Post by Linda3032 » Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:14 pm

Tom, don't send that little sucker out here - it sounds like the mask from hell.

Forget the mask, just tape the hose to your mouth and suck.


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Post by Yoga » Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:23 pm

Linda,

What is the problem you have with the Swift? If the straps do not stay put, try the PadACheek.


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Post by roztom » Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:44 pm

Maybe I should just stick that hose in my, in my.....

EAR.

Thanks,

Tom

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Post by Linda3032 » Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:46 pm

Yoga asked, "Linda what is the problem you have with the Swift? If the straps do not stay put, try the PadACheek."

I think my problem is that the Aura spoiled me. I use a very soft pillow that I like to wrap my arms around or under and sink into it. The Aura allows that - it even allows me to put my face into the bedpillow - as long as the vent at the top is clear.

On the Swift, the big piece under my nose that holds the pillows would move if it touched my bedpillow. Plus, the vent would blow on my arms. And then, I wanted an interface that I could use with my hose coming under the covers and up to my face. That little armature on the Swift just would not cooperate with my covers.

And I did pad the straps with Dr. Scholls Toe Guards. Those little suckers just slipped right on.

I'm glad so many people can use it and like it.


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Post by snork1 » Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:35 pm

[quote="chdurie2"]snork1:

i believe The Swift is rubber, not plastic, so it will absorb just about anything that comes near it. maybe the chemical gurus here can tell us which it would absorb/destroy more of, petroleum jelly or oil.
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I am not a doctor, nor do I even play one on TV.
Your mileage may vary.
Follow ANY advice or opinions at your own risk.
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Post by chdurie2 » Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:06 pm

snork1:

please excuse my poor grammar. i meant, oil or petroleum jelly?

which, from a chemical point of view, likely would be least damaging to cpap masks/nasal pillows, Swift in particular, oil or petroleum jelly? which would be the best moisturizer inside my nose during the night, given that i am the Dry Skin Queen, and too much ayr gel is really hurting my nose?

please also excuse my frustration with imprecision. I am a law student who recently was reamed by a professor for imprecise language. i was not trying to turn you into an expert witness at a trial.

i did some internet research on ingredients etc., and was having trouble figuring out whether people on this forum are unduly nervous about petroleum jelly, or whether they knew something i didn't. and basically, what should i be putting up my nose at night so that cpap works and my nose doesn't hurt all day.

thanks ever so much, and no, i didn't recognize you either. your new avitar is soooo cute!

caroline


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Post by snork1 » Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:21 pm

Either I am just not understanding what you are asking, or you need to read my previous post VERY carefully.


"oil" is like saying "liquid"....you have to define it a bit further.

"oil" or "jelly" would be the same as far as the interface is concerned, its the "petroleum" put in front of either descriptor that makes the difference.

What you use during the DAY, doesn't matter to the mask, although some people don't like petroleum products for skin use....but thats a whole different topic and forum. So petroleum based neosporin salve would be ok during the day, but it MIGHT be an issue for LONG TERM nighttime use for the interface.

I tend to have VERY sensitive/delicate skin that seems to react to just about anything, and FOR ME castor oil is the winner for being mild and effective. I use it for chapped lips and dry hands too. (mix a dash with a good hand lotion after a day of digging in the garden or working on the car turns my hands into literal sandpaper.)

Of course, since I am an engineer, I am sure I have only confused you more, while trying to clarify things. I certainly could never have become a lawyer with my skill at obscuring things.


[quote="chdurie2"]snork1:

please excuse my poor grammar. i meant, oil or petroleum jelly?

which, from a chemical point of view, likely would be least damaging to cpap masks/nasal pillows, Swift in particular, oil or petroleum jelly? which would be the best moisturizer inside my nose during the night, given that i am the Dry Skin Queen, and too much ayr gel is really hurting my nose?

please also excuse my frustration with imprecision. I am a law student who recently was reamed by a professor for imprecise language. i was not trying to turn you into an expert witness at a trial.

i did some internet research on ingredients etc., and was having trouble figuring out whether people on this forum are unduly nervous about petroleum jelly, or whether they knew something i didn't. and basically, what should i be putting up my nose at night so that cpap works and my nose doesn't hurt all day.

thanks ever so much, and no, i didn't recognize you either. your new avitar is soooo cute!

caroline

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Post by DCam34 » Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:40 pm

Hi Everyone, Ive been recently diagnosed with sleep apnea and was given the new version Breeze sleep gear to use. It puts so much pressure on my nose and feels like its going to slide off no matter how I adjust it. My use of a CPAP machine is required for me to keep my job. I drive a semi for a living and DOT is getting serious about sleep apnea and so is my company. I was thinking about buying the Mirage Swift but wanted to know if any of you have used the Breeze and the Swift and thought that the Swift was better. It looks like it would be to me. Any help will be greatly appreciated.