Rain Out

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joe26
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Rain Out

Post by joe26 » Wed May 23, 2012 6:39 am

Good Morning Everyone,

I'm 4 weeks with my cpap and I love it. I'm a different person. Its amazing
this night everything was fine until I felt water in my nose. !!Rain Out!!
How can I limit rain out?

Please advise
Thanks

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phantomdaz
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Re: Rain Out

Post by phantomdaz » Wed May 23, 2012 6:53 am

Dont fill the water level as high
lower the heater
be sure the machine is lower than your head....water wont run up hill but will gurgle if it tries to

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Pugsy
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Re: Rain Out

Post by Pugsy » Wed May 23, 2012 7:14 am

Are you using the ClimateLine hose where you can set the temperature? Increase the temp just a bit.

You can add a light weight hose cozy to your long hose even with Climateline.

It is possible that the moisture you felt is from condensation in the mask from your own exhale breath....are you using a hose routing system that puts the hose over your head in some fashion? Water can't run up hill. I have felt this spray often.
From my own breath...highly annoying but despite it feeling like a shower there really isn't much water.

If you aren't using the ClimateLine hose and only have humidifier setting option and not temperature option....you could try turning it down one setting...try a warmer hose cozy.. along with the standard things like keep the machine lower than your bed and run the hose under the covers to add warmth.

With nasal pillow masks I have a little barrel cozy to cover the pillows which helps a lot but I don't think there is any sort of cover for the nasal (over the nose) mask.

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joe26
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Re: Rain Out

Post by joe26 » Wed May 23, 2012 7:30 am

Thanks for your respond
I'm using the ClimateLine hose in it is set to 65f its not high at all. The machine is on my night stand it is about the same high as my bed.

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Re: Rain Out

Post by nanwilson » Wed May 23, 2012 7:38 am

Joe
As others have said....route your hose above your head. My machine is on my night stand the same level as my head but I route the hose up over my head board. I just put a couple of screws with those eye holes in them and tied my hose with a couple of elastics to it. If you do a search on hose hangers you will get a ton of ideas, even a fishing rod one .
Good luck
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Re: Rain Out

Post by Pugsy » Wed May 23, 2012 7:48 am

65 degrees isn't high temp at all. Simply not enough warmth to prevent rain out.
Increase the temp setting a bit and the rain out should stop or be markedly decreased.
Remember...warmer air hold more moisture before condensing....cooler air can't hold as much moisture and thus when things are too cool the moisture in the air is release in the form of condensation ....rain out.

Lowering the machine helps with letting any condensation flow back towards the machine but does nothing to help with mask condensation from the moisture in our own breath. Having warmer air coming from the machine to the mouth will help.
This is why we use hose cozies. Heated hose machines are new and before temp controls using a hose cozy and lowering the machine was about all we could do unless we want to raise the temp in the bedroom.
Winter is typically the worst time for rain out because we tend to have our bedrooms much cooler at night but it can happen any time if the ambient room conditions are there for condensation.

Word of caution for those that advocate routing the hose up over the head for rain out control...this works great for hose condensation but not so great for mask condensation from the moisture in our exhaled breath...if the hose is pointing upwards any condensation in the mask will go right back onto your face because it simply cannot flow uphill. Better to prevent by using higher incoming temp are alter room temp. Now for gurgling noises in the hose...yeah route the hose overhead.

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Re: Rain Out

Post by joe26 » Wed May 23, 2012 8:19 am

Thanks pugsy,
I will try

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Re: Rain Out

Post by Gerryk » Wed May 23, 2012 9:30 am

Joe, it is recommended that the machine be lower than you are. Also make sure that the night stand you have the machine on is sturdy and not a little one that the machine just fits on. You want the machine on something that won't go over with the machine on it if either gets bumped.

Gerry

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Re: Rain Out

Post by joe26 » Wed May 23, 2012 1:10 pm

thank you very much for your advise