WHat's the difference?

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WHat's the difference?

Post by rosacer » Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:54 pm

It just happened I found my sleep test report from 2 years ago.

I notice the clumsy analysis the thecnician wrote says '' Patient was horrendous in REM. When it was no apneas she still had strange breathing patthern ''

Apneas on NREM 5 and 101 hypopneas. Apneas on REM 28 with 24 Hypopneas. It was 58 desaturation under 85% and over 60% all on REM and Supine. I'm sure I would have had more if the bed has been normal he he he, the test was made at the hospital trying to sleep on a friking hospital's bed , so my results are what they are

What is the difference between having a worst result on REM than in No REM? Does it means something?

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Re: WHat's the difference?

Post by chunkyfrog » Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:55 pm

--Maybe sleep techs can be sleep deprived, too.
I take it you are much better now.
I'm thinking the lab report may not be clear to you--maybe not to anyone.
They don't have to get straight a's to pass that school.

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Re: WHat's the difference?

Post by Pugsy » Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:56 pm

It only means that you happen to have more events while in REM stage sleep. It is common and while not everyone will see a large difference..there are some that have even more of a difference.
Sort of like supine sleeping..for some people they might have more events or events that need more pressure when they sleep on their back when compared to side sleeping.

FWIW..I also happen to be documented per sleep study with my OSA being much "worse" when in REM stage sleep.
NREM sleep I was barely diagnostic with AHI of 12
REM Sleep..I was rocking and rolling with AHI of 53 and desats to 73%

Some people get the double whammy...worse in REM and when supine sleeping. I haven't seen any marked difference when sleeping supine though.

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Re: WHat's the difference?

Post by rosacer » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:45 pm

by chunkyfrog

--Maybe sleep techs can be sleep deprived, too.
I take it you are much better now.
You are right chunkyfrog, the tech was weird When he was placing the electrodes he kept forgetting where he had just let the bottle of glue But what I didn't find funny was that at the end of the test he was trying to find a wire over my left clavicle and then cause he found non he said ' oh, the wire unglued ' . He never put a wire there that's why it was no wire to unglue Sometimes I wonder if that's the reason of the weird breathing pattern. Any way at least he was nice.
by Pugsy

It only means that you happen to have more events while in REM stage sleep. It is common and while not everyone will see a large difference..
That relieves me As you see I had not a wonder as sleep tech and about the pulmonologist what can I say ? I think it's better to say nothing It toke one year to find a real good Dr. but the good side of the think is that I found cpaptalk.com the nice people here where my Dr. at the beginning when I had no clue what sleep apnea was or what to do to ease my troubles, remember my Dr was a null, hups! I said something

FWIW..I also happen to be documented per sleep study with my OSA being much "worse" when in REM stage sleep.
NREM sleep I was barely diagnostic with AHI of 12
REM Sleep..I was rocking and rolling with AHI of 53 and desats to 73%

Some people get the double whammy...worse in REM and when supine sleeping. I haven't seen any marked difference when sleeping supine though.
My AHI was said to be 30 but I think it was way more high than that. I lost concentration, memory, balance, was seen flashes in the dark, falling asleep in the face of the people, wanting to take a nap on red lights, hitting my head with the pantry door I just had opened, losing the objects I had in the hand 1 minute ago, a foggy brain, joints pain, gaining weight non stop at a fast speed, etc and all that happened all the sudden in a lapse of 4 months after been diagnosed before starting CPAP at a lower pressure than needed (again my good DR.'s prescription )

Thanks very much for the explanations, as you see I have no reason to trust that Dr. or the technician's report, but at least yes at least the AHI of 30 was high enough to be diagnosed as a sleep apnea patient and start treatment.

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