washing climate line

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.
User avatar
Elle
Posts: 1229
Joined: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:47 pm
Location: Canada

washing climate line

Post by Elle » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:21 pm

I didn't get around to washing my hose for my old F/P machine but when I did I could hook it up to the machine to dry it.

I intended to wash this one more often but now hesitate because my machine is set to turn off when not in use and I don't like to mess with settings.

I am wondering whether I will notice much difference if I use the regular hose that came with my S9 for a night or two and whether I have to change any humidifier settings if I do this? I know that it just says "slimline" in the settings and I figure that is for both hoses.

User avatar
chunkyfrog
Posts: 34544
Joined: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:10 pm
Location: Nowhere special--this year in particular.

Re: washing climate line

Post by chunkyfrog » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:13 pm

Is the old machine gone?
It could be your 'dryer'.

_________________
Mask: AirFit™ P10 For Her Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: Airsense 10 Autoset for Her

User avatar
Hose Head by Night
Posts: 41
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:16 pm
Location: Upstate New York

Re: washing climate line

Post by Hose Head by Night » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:36 pm

You should be able to hook it right back up after you wash it. Why do you think you need a few days to dry it out. The S9 will dry it out probally the first 30 minutes of use.

_________________
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Started 3/24/2011
Sleep therapy changed my life for the better, never knew how bad it was before I got hooked to "the machine".

User avatar
Elle
Posts: 1229
Joined: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:47 pm
Location: Canada

Re: washing climate line

Post by Elle » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:15 pm

Thanks guys. Both options work for me.

Pity I can't figure these things out myself. I hate getting old.

User avatar
idamtnboy
Posts: 2186
Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:12 pm
Location: Idaho

Re: washing climate line

Post by idamtnboy » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:46 pm

Elle wrote:Thanks guys. Both options work for me.

Pity I can't figure these things out myself. I hate getting old.
I take mine in the shower with me in the morning, put a little water and shampoo in it, connect the ends together with a 3/4 inch copper pipe coupling, and swish it back and forth for awhile. I rinse it out and hang it up to drip dry during the day. Connect it up at night, smell shampoo aroma for a while and go to sleep!

_________________
Mask: AirFit™ P10 Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Hose management - rubber band tied to casement window crank handle! Hey, it works! S/W is 3.13, not 3.7

User avatar
Elle
Posts: 1229
Joined: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:47 pm
Location: Canada

Re: washing climate line

Post by Elle » Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:54 pm

I underthink things. I hope I don't ask the same question tomorrow.

User avatar
archangle
Posts: 9293
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:55 am

Re: washing climate line

Post by archangle » Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:03 pm

The hose will never dry out inside anyway if you're using it with a humidifier. Even if you do dry it out after washing, it will get wet again when you use it the next evening.

I've washed my hose, sat it aside and looked at it several days later and found water droplets still in it. It's not going to dry out between nightly CPAP sessions.

I have multiple hoses and after I clean one, I hook it to my old machine without a humidifier and run it for half an hour or so until the hose is dry on the inside. Then I let it sit dry until next week to try and keep the bacteria and mold level down. Probably not really necessary, but I like to have a spare hose anyway, so I might as well let them sit clean and dry.

_________________
Mask: Swift™ FX Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Also SleepyHead, PRS1 Auto, Respironics Auto M series, Legacy Auto, and Legacy Plus
Please enter your equipment in your profile so we can help you.
Click here for information on the most common alternative to CPAP.
If it's midnight and a DME tells you it's dark outside, go and check for yourself.

Useful Links.

User avatar
RandyJ
Posts: 1673
Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:22 pm
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: washing climate line

Post by RandyJ » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:35 pm

elle - I usually wash my climateline tubing on Sunday mornings, hang it in the shower to dry, and when I go to bed on Sunday night at 11 pm it's still full of droplets. I hook it up and turn on the machine, put a towel on the floor and hold the tubing so that most of it is vertical, and I shake it gently for a few minutes while the work of the blower and gravity make most of the droplets come out, and then it's ready to use.

As someone else said above, it won't be 100% dry but it doesn't have to be.

_________________
Mask: AirFit™ P10 Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: Backup & Travel Machines: PR System One Bipap Auto, S9 VPAP Auto, S9 Autoset, Oximeter CMS-50E
Diagnosed March 2011, using APAP 14 - 16.5 cm, AFlex+ 2
Alt masks Swift FX pillows, Mirage FX nasal mask, Mirage Quattro full face mask

User avatar
SleepingUgly
Posts: 4690
Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:32 pm

Re: washing climate line

Post by SleepingUgly » Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:28 pm

How important is it for the climate line to dry...ever? Mine is never dry.
Never put your fate entirely in the hands of someone who cares less about it than you do. --Sleeping Ugly

User avatar
Elle
Posts: 1229
Joined: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:47 pm
Location: Canada

Re: washing climate line

Post by Elle » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:01 pm

Thanks so much folks. I guess I have no excuse now. I will have to wash the damn thing.

User avatar
Pugsy
Posts: 65198
Joined: Thu May 14, 2009 9:31 am
Location: Missouri, USA

Re: washing climate line

Post by Pugsy » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:21 pm

Elle wrote:Thanks so much folks. I guess I have no excuse now. I will have to wash the damn thing.
Well.......you could emulate me if you want to. I can't remember when I washed my performance hose last and now that I have a heated hose (the Hybernite 2300) I am just as lazy about washing it. I know some folks will cringe but I just don't see the need for weekly or even monthly washing or heaven forbid...6 month washing. Hey, I sleep just fine with any cooties that may be in it.

_________________
Machine: AirCurve™ 10 VAuto BiLevel Machine with HumidAir™ Heated Humidifier
Additional Comments: Mask Bleep Eclipse https://bleepsleep.com/the-eclipse/
I may have to RISE but I refuse to SHINE.

User avatar
Elle
Posts: 1229
Joined: Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:47 pm
Location: Canada

Re: washing climate line

Post by Elle » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:47 pm

I agree Pugsy. love my cooties. I washed my other hose a couple of times in 5 plus years....thought I would turn over a new leaf but Pugsy is right on every other thing on this forum so off to bed with my month old cooties.

User avatar
archangle
Posts: 9293
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:55 am

Re: washing climate line

Post by archangle » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:01 pm

SleepingUgly wrote:How important is it for the climate line to dry...ever? Mine is never dry.
It's probably mostly paranoia, but I AM a bit paranoid about germs. As best as I can tell, the manufacturer's recommendations don't include any effective drying of the inside of the hose.

Even if you do get the hose dry after cleaning, if you use the same hose that night, it will get wet the next time you turn the machine on. I doubt if being dry for a few hours is going to make much difference in long term germ growth. I like to tell myself that using two hoses, blow drying, and letting them sit dry for a whole week between cleanings will cut down on germ growth.

I know insurance tends to have an allowed hose replacement schedule. I don't know if the manufacturers have recommendations about this. Maybe periodic hose replacement is intended as the way to handle gradual contamination and bacteria growth. Even with cleaning, you'd expect gunk to eventually build up on the inside of the hose.

I never used to worry about hoses getting old and replaced them when they got holes or the rubber got yucky. I recently found some hoses at 3 for $15 on ebay and decided "what the heck?" and now rotate through 3 of them. I'll probably buy another 3 hoses every year or so.

If I had an expensive hose, I'd probably get two and rinse, dry, and rotate weekly. You need a spare hose anyway.

_________________
Mask: Swift™ FX Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Headgear
Humidifier: S9™ Series H5i™ Heated Humidifier with Climate Control
Additional Comments: Also SleepyHead, PRS1 Auto, Respironics Auto M series, Legacy Auto, and Legacy Plus
Please enter your equipment in your profile so we can help you.
Click here for information on the most common alternative to CPAP.
If it's midnight and a DME tells you it's dark outside, go and check for yourself.

Useful Links.

User avatar
msradar65
Posts: 841
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:36 am
Location: In the Carolina's

Re: washing climate line

Post by msradar65 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:17 pm

I have to admit in a year I have NEVER washed my climate line hose.
Diagnosed 08/31/10. Titration 9/02/10. Started CPAP 11/01/10. Auto mode 10-15cm. Alternate mask GoLife for her. Back up mask Full-life full face w/Pad-a-cheek mask liner. Comtec CMS F50 wrist pulse oximeter. Sobakawa Cloud Pillow, Sleepyhead software

User avatar
porete
Posts: 230
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:58 pm

Re: washing climate line

Post by porete » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:24 pm

archangle wrote:
SleepingUgly wrote:How important is it for the climate line to dry...ever? Mine is never dry.
It's probably mostly paranoia, but I AM a bit paranoid about germs. As best as I can tell, the manufacturer's recommendations don't include any effective drying of the inside of the hose.

Even if you do get the hose dry after cleaning, if you use the same hose that night, it will get wet the next time you turn the machine on. I doubt if being dry for a few hours is going to make much difference in long term germ growth. I like to tell myself that using two hoses, blow drying, and letting them sit dry for a whole week between cleanings will cut down on germ growth.

I know insurance tends to have an allowed hose replacement schedule. I don't know if the manufacturers have recommendations about this. Maybe periodic hose replacement is intended as the way to handle gradual contamination and bacteria growth. Even with cleaning, you'd expect gunk to eventually build up on the inside of the hose.

I never used to worry about hoses getting old and replaced them when they got holes or the rubber got yucky. I recently found some hoses at 3 for $15 on ebay and decided "what the heck?" and now rotate through 3 of them. I'll probably buy another 3 hoses every year or so.

If I had an expensive hose, I'd probably get two and rinse, dry, and rotate weekly. You need a spare hose anyway.
I agree. I wash my hose every day...I'm also paranoid about germs. I certainly don't want anything to get into my lungs.

_________________
Mask: FitLife Total Face CPAP Mask with Headgear
Additional Comments: Pressure Range: 8.5-14, EPR: 3