RLS happening in CPAP auto but not in BIPAP - why ?

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RLS happening in CPAP auto but not in BIPAP - why ?

Post by heartchakra » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:54 pm

Hello from India

My father has been trying the Respironics CPAP Auto, the Resmed Auto and the Respironics BiPAP machine.


In both the CPAP machines he still seems to have the Restless legs syndrome which he has but it does not happen when he used the BiPap machine. Would anyone know why this happens ? I set the Bipap pressure to 8 and 6 .


Also, how important is a titration study ? One doctor here says if one uses an auto CPAP there is no need for that as the machine takes care of the pressure needed. If he is sleeping peacefully without and gasping or RLS, does it mean that its all ok ?

With love,

Deepak

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Re: RLS happening in CPAP auto but not in BIPAP - why ?

Post by Slinky » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:14 am

What was the pressure range settings w/the Resmed and the Respironics autos? There is a good chance that the pressure range was too wide and the variances in pressure were causing the restless legs where as w/the narrow pressure change of just 2 cms was more comfortable and not disrupting his sleep. If he is still using an auto narrow the pressure range to a 5 cm distance and see if that helps.

If you are working just w/the data from the LED screen you would do better to stick w/Resmed. If you have the software for both brands there isn't that need.

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Re: RLS happening in CPAP auto but not in BIPAP - why ?

Post by heartchakra » Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:55 am

Slinky, Thank you .

The pressure settings were indeed wide 5 min and 15 maximum Will take your suggestion and reduce it. Would 7 and 10 be ok you think ?

Also, I did not understand this line - can you please explain - If you are working just w/the data from the LED screen you would do better to stick w/Resmed. If you have the software for both brands there isn't that need.


Thanks a lot


Deepak

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Re: RLS happening in CPAP auto but not in BIPAP - why ?

Post by Pugsy » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:08 am

heartchakra wrote:Also, I did not understand this line - can you please explain - If you are working just w/the data from the LED screen you would do better to stick w/Resmed. If you have the software for both brands there isn't that need.
ResMed machines have more data available on the LCD screen on the machine than Respironics machines have. Respironics machines only offer some 7/30 averages of AHI..very limited the the LCD screen but they do gather the same data as ResMed..just can't see it without software. ResMed machines offer much more data on the LCD screen.

If you have the software (or can get the software) for either machine the on screen data difference is not important. The software is easily available for both machines.

Which Models of the ResMed and Respironics machines are being tried? The older models of each brand require a special card reader to utilize software. The new models use a little SD card to store data and software is easily used with either machine. SleepyHead in my signature line works with SD cards from both the ResMed and Respironics machines.
Model names that use SD cards are the ResMed S9 Auto Set...and the Respironics PR System One machines.
So which model of each brand is your father trying?
S9 AutoSet or S8 AutoSet?
In Respironics...Does it say "system One" some where on it and look like the machine I have in my profile? Click on the link to see my machine.
Or does the Respironics say M series on it or look entirely different?

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Post by heartchakra » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:37 am

The Respironics machine he is using is the same as yours.

The Resmed machine he is trying is the s9 Autoset .



Thanks so much for helping,

Love,
Deepak

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Re: RLS happening in CPAP auto but not in BIPAP - why ?

Post by Pugsy » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:44 am

heartchakra wrote:The Respironics machine he is using is the same as yours.

The Resmed machine he is trying is the s9 Autoset .
They both use SD cards for data collection. They both will work with SleepyHead software.
I have information about SleepyHead in my signature line at bottom left of this post.
It is easy to use and free.

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Post by heartchakra » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:05 am

thank you so much Pugsy

What are the most important numbers to read on the SD cards ?

So basically I take out the card from the machine, plug it into my computer and read it using the sleepyhead s/w ??


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Deepak

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Post by heartchakra » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:09 am

When i try to install sleepyhead I get an error message saying - Cant install as mingwm10.dll not found.


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Re: RLS happening in CPAP auto but not in BIPAP - why ?

Post by Elle » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:14 am

I found out the hard way to not take the card out of the machine too soon after you finish using it. So wait a few minutes before taking it out. Also, I am not sure if this is the same as the sleepyhead but my software (Rescan) only recognizes the card if I insert it into my computer after the program is running.

That isn't much help likely but just wanted to point out a couple of things that could go wrong. It is just after midnight where I am and later in the central and eastern US so you may not get responses for a few hours.

Good luck.

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Re: RLS happening in CPAP auto but not in BIPAP - why ?

Post by heartchakra » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:23 am

Thanks elle