Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

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Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by sypark » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:22 pm

Please join me for my next Expert Interview on October 25th, at 8PM Eastern. This month, I’ve invited Buteyko breathing instructor Patrick Mckeown to talk to us about how this breathing technique can improve symptoms of obstructive sleep apnea.

Click here to register: http://doctorstevenpark.com/expert-inte ... ck-mckeown
Steven Y. Park, MD
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Author of the book, Sleep, Interrupted: A physician reveals the #1 reason why so many of us are sick and tired.
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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by mars » Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:38 am

for an an easier, cheaper and travel-easy sleep apnea treatment :D

http://www.cpaptalk.com/viewtopic/t7020 ... rapy-.html

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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by Breathe Jimbo » Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:45 am

Oh, no, not this Buteyko crap again!

If Dr Park is endorsing this, he has lost credibility.

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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by VVV » Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:40 am

The emails Dr. Park is sending out have become more dramatic.

The first one was titled,
Can Buteyko Breathing Help Sleep Apnea?
The one I received this morning is titled,
An Interesting, Innovative, and Inexpensive Way of Treating Sleep Apnea
I hope some of you are bored and will listen to the audio and give us a report on this nonsense.

Sure people can learn to do new things: how to ice skate, how to play tennis, how to solve algebraic expressions, etc.

But after learning to do them well, you still can't do them in your sleep!
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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by Gerald? » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:28 am

Did anyone listen in?

Just wondering if there was anything new that has not already been canvased on here by Buteyko proponents or if Dr Park pointed out its limitations.

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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by Lizistired » Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:51 am

I listened to it yesterday after he sent me the dropbox links. Here they are.

MP3: http://db.tt/NIeHk7k6
Slides: http://db.tt/9XWjbqFp

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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by xenablue » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:19 am

Without taking either side of pro- or con-Buteyko Breathing, I believe Dr. Park is just offering another way to look at things. In the majority of us, I don't believe learning a new breathing method will allow us to do away with our XPAPs as for the most part our issues are a physical problem of small or collapsing airways.

However - there may just be a small number of people that this Buteyko Breathing helps - either to just help them strengthen and open airways, or to rid them of their machines altogether.

I don't believe presenting a different view necessarily puts Dr. Park in the category of quacks - more that he is willing to give as many views as possible - whether he condones them or not.

No, I wasn't able to listen to the program, and I don't know anything about Buteyko Breathing to make a comment either way - but I choose to keep an open mind.

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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:45 am

I can't even keep my mouth shut while asleep without help;
so anything that requires conscious effort will not work the moment I lose consciousness.
PASS.

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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by xenablue » Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:54 am

chunkyfrog wrote:I can't even keep my mouth shut while asleep without help;
so anything that requires conscious effort will not work the moment I lose consciousness.
PASS.
Same here chunkyfrog - after a year on CPAP, and a pressure of 9-10 only, still need a pretty snug chinstrap to stop my yap from dropping open. Don't think Buteyko would help me.... but who knows whether it would help others....

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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by rocklin » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:00 pm

Breathe Jimbo wrote:If Dr Park is endorsing this, he has lost credibility.
Yes.

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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by rocklin » Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:01 pm

Breathe Jimbo wrote:If Dr Park is endorsing this, he has lost credibility.
No.

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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by GumbyCT » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:16 pm

VVV wrote:Sure people can learn to do new things: how to ice skate, how to play tennis, how to solve algebraic expressions, etc.

But after learning to do them well, you still can't do them in your sleep!
IF you think you can breath thru your mouth ALL day then magically begin to breath thru your nose AFTER you go to sleep, I think you are mistaken.

That's why police, firemen, the military, even baseball & football players practice and train until things become 2nd nature. Esp. when under duress, we don't think but fall back on our training.

This is NOT a cure for OSA but can certainly enhance your therapy IF you can breath thru your nose while wearing the CPAP. I think Breathing and breathing thru your nose is the very FIRST step in cpap therapy.

Breathing thru your mouth can push your tongue back into your airway, while breathing thru your nose can help to move the tongue away from the airway.

IF your sleep doc has not looked into your nose AND throat then listened to you breathing, find a new sleep doc.

Not to make light of this but OSA is SDB (Sleep Disordered Breathing).

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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by Lizistired » Thu Oct 27, 2011 3:30 pm

The part I did find interesting is the necessary balance of carbon dioxide in the blood in releasing oxygen into the cells.

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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by VVV » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:18 pm

GumbyCT wrote:
IF you think you can breath thru your mouth ALL day then magically begin to breath thru your nose AFTER you go to sleep, I think you are mistaken.
I am well aware of the advantage of breathing through your nose, having been taught by a track coach decades ago.

Only in recent years did the medical profession explain to me the science behind it.



GumbyCT wrote:

That's why police, firemen, the military, even baseball & football players practice and train until things become 2nd nature.
And after that training and practice, they can make an arrest, capture the enemy, pitch a no-hitter, and kick a field goal in their sleep? Really! Really!


Lizistired wrote:The part I did find interesting is the necessary balance of carbon dioxide in the blood in releasing oxygen into the cells.
So what's the Cliff Notes version? Breathe through the nose?
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Re: Expert Interview: Buteyko Breathing with Patrick Mckeown

Post by GumbyCT » Thu Oct 27, 2011 5:25 pm

Get him Rocky.

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