Respironics System One question

My DME (part of my employer since I work for a hospital) is wanting me to use the Respironics System One (S1) as it has the modem installed and will transmit the data on a daily basis. My question is this. I am a data junkie (i'm in Clinical IT) and love to analyze information. I don't have an issue with the modem sending the data regularly as it would save me a trip, but someone else had said that if I have the S1 device with the Modem, I CAN'T get to my own data as the modem takes up the SD card slot.

Can anyone confirm this? I would think the machine has to store the data someplace until it sends it, so there must be a datacard still on the machine.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

John

The modem plugs in over the top of the SD card, your data is still saved to the card. In order to get you info from the card you must unplug the modem...

I think one other person here has mentioned that the modem is in place and it covers the SD slot but that the SD slot still had an SD in place and they were able to remove the modem, pull the SD card, get the data, replace the SD card and then modem. PITA work but doable. I have never seen the modem so I don't know for sure but from pictures it covers the back side where the SD card is but given that I seem to remember one newbie reporting the extra work to pull the SD card after removing modem..it seems like it can be done. I can't remember who it was that mentioned this.
But fairly recently...like in the past couple of weeks or so.

I do know that if the machine does not come with SD card..any cheap generic SD card will work. I got a 2 GB Sandisk
card at Walmart for around $9 for my machine as the seller forgot to send the SD card.

Thanks REF and Pugsy... one other question... does the modem wipe the data off the card after it sends or does it just accumulate until it needs to delete due to size issues. I know the Resmed device clears the breath-by-breath data every seven days.

I have used the SD card since April.
I checked the other day... 0.03 GB has been used. It has tons of room left on it.
Modem use does not affect SD use or data on the SD card.
There is no pressing need to clear the data off the SD card as it will take a couple of years (or more) to fill it.

Have you seen your software options with PR S1? Send me a note if you want more information about Pro.
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Perrybucsdad wrote:but someone else had said that if I have the S1 device with the Modem, I CAN'T get to my own data as the modem takes up the SD card slot.

Can anyone confirm this? I would think the machine has to store the data someplace until it sends it, so there must be a datacard still on the machine.

John:

Looking at the back of my PR S1 machine, the place for the modem install seems to be the same place that the SD card slot is. However, It certainly would be possible to remove the modem and collect the data on the SD card and then re-install the modem for transmission to the data center. I suspect that the modem only transmits compliance, event, and presssure data and not the full set of information the PR S1 actually collects.

That being said, did they offer to let you download the files they receive from your machine? That might be the easiest way out of this problem.

JDS... actually I found out from some on this site and another, and also I had emailed Philips earlier this AM, and they all said the same thing. The card is still there, just covered up. The Modem does not wipe the data, and more importantly, the card and modem do not interact with one another. So, I guess that's good news.

Now the dilema that I have is I just spoke with my DME and they said they have ordered a ResMed S9 so I can compare the two units side by side. Only issue is it may not be here by the 14th when I have my apt. Part of me says get the ResMed as it seems to have more advanced "stuff" and easier to view data, but everything I have read seems to say they have about the same level of quality in the outcomes.

Perrybucsdad wrote:My DME (part of my employer since I work for a hospital) is wanting me to use the Respironics System One (S1) as it has the modem installed and will transmit the data on a daily basis. My question is this. I am a data junkie (i'm in Clinical IT) and love to analyze information.

Maybe you can get your employer to allow you to access "your medical records" and tell us more about how Encore Anywhere works, where & WHAT data is stored, etc. To deny you would be a HIPAA violation; to allow you would be enlightening and certainly help you progress in your therapy. A venture like this might also help your sleep doc. The worst they can say is NO.

"Sunshine is the best disinfectant" - LBJ when signing FOI into law.

Gumby, the goofy thing about HIPAA is it is a criminal act for me to directly access my medical records (I know that's not what you were saying to do, but sometimes it's not easy to even see your own data). It's sounds messed up, but the reason why is the doc may put somethingin your chart that he doesn't want you to see I am told. I don't agree with it, but there have been people who "used" to work here who were let go because they were accessing their own medical record. It is taken very seriously.

That being said though, since I am in Clinical IT, I doubt they would tell me "Tango-Sierra" and invite me in to see the data. Do you think it's any different than EncorePro2 though? I know the anywhere software allows them to configure certain things (min/max, other settings on the device, etc)... and personally, as long as I can see the data, it doesn't matter if it is anywhere or Pro2 (or any of the other user designed software packages).

As far as the where and what data and all that, I'd be more than happy to try and see that for the group. I have a feeling though it's the complete set of data... that would only make sense.

- John

Perrybucsdad wrote:My DME (part of my employer since I work for a hospital) is wanting me to use the Respironics System One (S1) as it has the modem installed and will transmit the data on a daily basis. My question is this. I am a data junkie (i'm in Clinical IT) and love to analyze information. I don't have an issue with the modem sending the data regularly as it would save me a trip, but someone else had said that if I have the S1 device with the Modem, I CAN'T get to my own data as the modem takes up the SD card slot.

Can anyone confirm this? I would think the machine has to store the data someplace until it sends it, so there must be a datacard still on the machine.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

John

I have the PR1 Remstar Pro 450 and can confirm the wireless modem covers the SD card. Data is still saved on the SD card, but you must remove the modem to remove the SD card for xfer to a PC. And it's a pain to go thru all that work just to download. I also found that the PR1 does not provided a daily AHI or mask leakage on the machine's LCD readout. You must read the data on your PC via software to see what AHI/leakage is doing each day. The PR1 only provides a AHI 7 day and 30day average o the LCD readout. That issue plus the LCD reading is very difficult since B&W and you must be directly over the LCD to read it (also cumbersome if in bed), made the decision for me to shift machines to the ResMed S9 Elite (now waiting on the DME to approve swapping CPAPs to the S9). I also did not care for the PR1 humidity control and their exhaust press decrease as the press decrease routinely did not coincide with my breathing habits. The S9 humidity control is supposed to be much more controllable with the temp controlled hose option and the S9 also provides a face mask fit indication with leakage data that you can test and observe on their color LCD.

I for one wish I had compared both PR1 and the S9 side by side before getting the PR1. My DME was pushing PR1 hard (was also available immediately vice a 2 day wait for the S9)and ultimately it was the wrong decision for me. Also per the ResMed website, the S9 also has a wirelesss modem option

Perrybucsdad wrote:Gumby, the goofy thing about HIPAA is it is a criminal act for me to directly access my medical records (I know that's not what you were saying to do, but sometimes it's not easy to even see your own data). It's sounds messed up, but the reason why is the doc may put somethingin your chart that he doesn't want you to see I am told. I don't agree with it, but there have been people who "used" to work here who were let go because they were accessing their own medical record. It is taken very seriously.

Not Goofy at all. Tho I would tend to think the reason would be that if one had Admin Access they could/would be tempted to alter/change or otherwise misrepresent anything negative or they thought would change insurance or employment data.

If it were me - I would be more interested to see how my doc reacted or endorsed my access to what they insert. I have found things slanted and total lies inserted by requesting info the 'ol fashioned way.

By lies I mean things like a BP inserted when it was not taken and statements that I refused a med or informational class when it was not a refusal, I told the doc I had already attended. In the case of the med I suggested we wait a week or two to try something else first.

donaldm823 wrote: I for one wish I had compared both PR1 and the S9 side by side before getting the PR1. My DME was pushing PR1 hard (was also available immediately vice a 2 day wait for the S9)and ultimately it was the wrong decision for me. Also per the ResMed website, the S9 also has a wirelesss modem option

Good information Donald... and some of it sounds like I may be in the same boat with a few day wait to get the one I want. The good news is I was told there is NO upcharge to go with the S9 so that is good.

You mention that the S9 also has a modem, BUT they would then have to have the software on the receiving end as well I would think to make that work. Then again, if I send them the card, the same would apply I guess. OR, can one vendor's data be read with another's software? I know there are third party OpenSource software out there, but I doubt a large hospital would go that route.

- John

Resmed's modem-type data transfer is called ResTraxx and, yes, they would need the software to make use of it. Same ole, same ole propritary thing as a Chevy engine not compatable to be used in a Ford.

Go to Resmed's site, choose the Professional section, check Products, read about ResTraxx. See what else is available to the pros. Its interesting. I've never explored Respironics/PR's website.