Sleeping with Christopher

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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by Buford » Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:44 am

So how do I get my hands on Encore Pro?

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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by Pugsy » Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:01 pm

Buford wrote:So how do I get my hands on Encore Pro?

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JDS74 wrote: The lost data I'm referring to is the WaveForm data that is kept in the .005 file on the card. If the card in not actually in the machine, then the data is not recorded - at least on the two different PR S1 machines I have used.
I know what you are referring to but when I forgot to put my card in last weekend and then did insert the card and later pull the card to down download to Pro & SleepyHead, I did have wave form in SleepyHead for the night I forgot to have the card in the machine. This was recent so I can't blame failing memory. I guess it is best to say that perhaps a person might get lucky and have waveform if they forget to have replace the card but it is possible that they won't have waveform. I know that you are sure you didn't but I am just as sure that I did.

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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by Otter » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:10 pm

Buford wrote:Re: Sleepyhead. I am not a programmer but I've helped many companies in beta development of software, my ideas seem to be well accepted and often implemented. If I can be of any service pleas do not hesitate to ask. (I would do that service gratis) .
If you'd like to participate, join the alpha testing thread. Mark is the loner coder on the project at this point, and he's mainly concentrating on getting the basics in place so he can move to beta, but he welcomes input from his fellow hoseheads.
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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by Otter » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:18 pm

Pugsy wrote:
JDS74 wrote: If you don't have the card in PR S1 machine, the wave data is lost
Hmm.. Mine wasn't. It was available in SleepyHead.
I think what JD means is that the S9 doesn't record detailed data unless the card is in the machine. The detailed data is not cached to write to the card later. The S9 will write summary data to the card when you insert it, but the waveforms are lost.

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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by Pugsy » Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:54 pm

Otter wrote:I think what JD means is that the S9 doesn't record detailed data unless the card is in the machine. The detailed data is not cached to write to the card later. The S9 will write summary data to the card when you insert it, but the waveforms are lost.
I thought JD was referring to PR S1 since that is what shows in his profile and was talking about his experience.

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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by JDS74 » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:30 am

Pugsy wrote:
Otter wrote:I think what JD means is that the S9 doesn't record detailed data unless the card is in the machine. The detailed data is not cached to write to the card later. The S9 will write summary data to the card when you insert it, but the waveforms are lost.
I thought JD was referring to PR S1 since that is what shows in his profile and was talking about his experience.
Yep, my reference is to the PR S1. On my machine, if I leave the card out overnight and insert it the next day, only the event and pressure data is recorded. The wave data is not recorded. I've had this experience with two difference PR S1 machines and thought that was the way they all behaved.

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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by Pugsy » Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:59 am

JDS74 wrote:Yep, my reference is to the PR S1. On my machine, if I leave the card out overnight and insert it the next day, only the event and pressure data is recorded. The wave data is not recorded. I've had this experience with two difference PR S1 machines and thought that was the way they all behaved.
I will mention this. Last weekend when I did forget....I woke up and was laying in bed with machine on and immediately thought "Oh crap" "I didn't put the card back in" so I got up and turned the machine off...then thought "oh crap, should have left it running"....too late..went immediately to get the SD card and inserted it. Perhaps I was quick enough that the session wasn't closed out and so it still had the waveform data in its little brain. We don't know how much time is needed between the time the machine is turned off and the data goes from machine to card.

I have only left the SD card out twice...both times I remembered it upon waking up and quickly got the card inserted.
Neither time resulted in any lost data of any kind.
Now I do have 3 or 4 nights with no waveform on SH but more like bad files and not because of SD card not being inserted.

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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by SleepingUgly » Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:46 pm

Poor Christopher. You'd think this thread is about him, and yet he's so peripheral to the discussion.
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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by Buford » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:31 pm

I have a very difficult time typing "Sleeping Ugly". Better to sleep with a hose than be dead.

I shall assume you are Cinderella incognito, thank you for taking an interest in Christopher.

However, I think it can be helpful when a thread gets hijacked, my title choice was tongue in cheek anyway.

Back on topic:

Today at 2 PM I had my pastor visit my home. We had Christopher, my house, my 4x4 crew cab pickup truck blessed, in that order.

When Christopher was pup and eating all the USB wires under my desk, a different Priest asked: "Would you like your puppy blessed?"

I answered: "Father I was going to hold out for the full exorcism but I think he may have out grown it."

Last night we shared some Haagen Dazs French vanilla in bed, I assure you that Christopher is never neglected. Witness today he chased Father about the house with a stuffed elephant in his mouth.

I sleep this time of year with the windows wide open, about 5 AM we broke formation so I could get under the covers, Getting resettled Christopher saw the wisdom of rearrangement and instead of forming up side by side, to maximize heat preservation we went into over under formation. I woke up an hour later soaking wet with sweat.

I read a thread here last night on electric blankets. All I say is that my electrical blanket can catch rabbits and pee in the park with the best of them.

Blessings on Blessings,

Keep warm,

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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by Buford » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:37 pm

Pugsy wrote > I will mention this. Last weekend when I did forget....I woke up and was laying in bed with machine on and immediately thought "Oh crap" "I didn't put the card back in" so I got up and turned the machine off...then thought "oh crap, should have left it running"....too late..went immediately to get the SD card and inserted it. Perhaps I was quick enough that the session wasn't closed out and so it still had the waveform data in its little brain. We don't know how much time is needed between the time the machine is turned off and the data goes from machine to card.

I suspect a "sleep day" runs from noon to noon, and so possibly the data gets written to SD Card after the sleep day is closed? Perhaps 12:01 or 12:05 Pm every day?

If you replace the card before noon you may be OK? After 12 noon you get less info?

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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by Pugsy » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:05 pm

Buford wrote:I suspect a "sleep day" runs from noon to noon, and so possibly the data gets written to SD Card after the sleep day is closed? Perhaps 12:01 or 12:05 Pm every day?

If you replace the card before noon you may be OK? After 12 noon you get less info?
Respironics machines are all set to GMT. So noon to me is not necessarily noon to the machine.

I don't know if there is a set time limit after machine goes to off before it decides we are done recording. I know I can wake up 6 AM and check my data at 6:30 AM and it will all be there from the previous night.
We use the software to correlate times to our time zone. Sleepyhead pulls it off the computer clock as does Encore Viewer. Encore Pro comes with time set to GMT and we have to manually change it to our time zone. Daylight savings time messes with Pro..starting time is one hour off and I haven't been able to get it set up properly. This fall it will go back to normal and be correct.

In theory 7 AM would be the machine's Noon (I am CDT) and I often sleep past 7 AM with no break in the report.
If I can remember, the next few days I will play with it a bit to see if I spot something.

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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by SleepingUgly » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:16 pm

Buford wrote:I have a very difficult time typing "Sleeping Ugly". Better to sleep with a hose than be dead.
Actually the name had more to do with my sleep than my appearance on CPAP.
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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by Buford » Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:20 pm

I think one can time sync the xpap with the laptop, I set a time zone in encore pro, does it have an effect? does it set the xpap clock? one can manualy set the xpap clock?

Sleeping Ugly, sorry I should have known that.

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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by Pugsy » Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:59 pm

Buford wrote:I think one can time sync the xpap with the laptop, I set a time zone in encore pro, does it have an effect? does it set the xpap clock? one can manualy set the xpap clock?
Pro has its own time zone. Doesn't pull off the computer clock like most apps do.
Pro comes set to GMT. If it is left unchanged the reports will show a break in therapy times. Really weird looking.
When I first installed Pro last January I changed time zone to CST. Reports were spot on as to hour that I started with with machine on.
When daylight savings time came around I turned on the DST button in Pro but for some reason I am still an hour off.
If I turn it off I am 2 hours off.
For me it is unimportant. I don't care if it says I went to bed at midnight and it was 11 PM...Hours asleep are correct.

Respironics machines are preset to GMT and we can't change it at all. If it is off by 5 minutes..it just has to be off..we can't fix it. Now ResMed machines do offer time setting.

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Re: Sleeping with Christopher

Post by SleepingUgly » Fri Sep 09, 2011 6:58 pm

SleepingUgly wrote:
Buford wrote:I have a very difficult time typing "Sleeping Ugly". Better to sleep with a hose than be dead.
Actually the name had more to do with my sleep than my appearance on CPAP.
I look FANTASTIC on CPAP, in fact. The less of my face that shows, the better I look.
Never put your fate entirely in the hands of someone who cares less about it than you do. --Sleeping Ugly