FFM and chinstrap

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FFM and chinstrap

Post by asylvia » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:32 am

is a chinstrap required when using a full face mask?

thoughts?

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Re: FFM and chinstrap

Post by DaveLP » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:35 am

My opinion would be that it depends on the FFM. If it goes under your chin (I have a Fisher & Paykel that does) you should be fine. If not, some full masks allow you to drop your chin and break the seal. Your DME should be able to suggest one that captures the chin.

It's likely a situation that depends on your facial shape and the mask fit.

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Re: FFM and chinstrap

Post by Vader » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:40 am

asylvia wrote:is a chinstrap required when using a full face mask?

thoughts?
No, not at all. In fact, normally a FFM should eliminate the need for a chinstrap.

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Re: FFM and chinstrap

Post by avi123 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:56 am

During thec last 8 mo I have been trying about 6 different makes of FF masks (with no chin strap, which I hate) . But now after I raised the max pressure to 15 cm the Fisher & Paykel #431 and #432 started to show leaks. So I plan to try Resmed Ultra Mirage Full Face:

http://www.resmed.com/us/products/ultra ... c=patients

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Re: FFM and chinstrap

Post by archangle » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:59 pm

It can go either way.

A lot of people who need chin straps with a nasal mask can do without it if they have an FFM.

Some people find that if their mouth comes open when they are wearing an FFM, the shape of their face changes and they get leaks around the mask. In this case, you may still want to use a chin strap.

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Re: FFM and chinstrap

Post by asylvia » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:29 pm

Vader wrote:
asylvia wrote:is a chinstrap required when using a full face mask?

thoughts?
No, not at all. In fact, normally a FFM should eliminate the need for a chinstrap.
this is what i was hoping for. i currently use swift fx, and have started using the resmed chinstrap, but it is horrible. i'm thinking if i can upgrade to a FFM, i can get away with no chinstrap at all.

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Re: FFM and chinstrap

Post by Vader » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:54 pm

asylvia wrote:
Vader wrote:
asylvia wrote:is a chinstrap required when using a full face mask?

thoughts?
No, not at all. In fact, normally a FFM should eliminate the need for a chinstrap.
this is what i was hoping for. i currently use swift fx, and have started using the resmed chinstrap, but it is horrible. i'm thinking if i can upgrade to a FFM, i can get away with no chinstrap at all.
I have tried MOST of the FFM's available, and I've found the Mirage Quattro to be the most comfortable(except for occassional nose bridge irritation), but I get best therapy results with the Quattro FX. You will probably have to experiment a bit to find which mask is really best for YOU.
Also, mask liners can definitely add a higher comfort level.

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Re: FFM and chinstrap

Post by Julie » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:57 pm

Have used the UM FF for years and never wore a strap.

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Re: FFM and chinstrap

Post by Alshain » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:58 pm

Vader wrote:I have tried MOST of the FFM's available, and I've found the Mirage Quattro to be the most comfortable(except for occassional nose bridge irritation), but I get best therapy results with the Quattro FX. You will probably have to experiment a bit to find which mask is really best for YOU.
Also, mask liners can definitely add a higher comfort level.

This is a good example of how everyone is different. The Mirage Quattro, in my opinion, is the most uncomfortable piece of crap ever made. Switching to the FX soon, will let you know.

If they would make an F&P 431 mask with a Quattro style forehead brace, I would never go back.

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Re: FFM and chinstrap

Post by Vader » Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:12 pm

Alshain wrote:
Vader wrote:I have tried MOST of the FFM's available, and I've found the Mirage Quattro to be the most comfortable(except for occassional nose bridge irritation), but I get best therapy results with the Quattro FX. You will probably have to experiment a bit to find which mask is really best for YOU.
Also, mask liners can definitely add a higher comfort level.

This is a good example of how everyone is different. The Mirage Quattro, in my opinion, is the most uncomfortable piece of crap ever made. Switching to the FX soon, will let you know.
LOL! ....you're right!, everyone is different. That's what makes "The Mask" the elusive prize in mastering cpap therapy. The Quattro FX is another one of those masks that some love and some hate. But I've gotten my best therapy ever, with that mask.

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Re: FFM and chinstrap

Post by Alshain » Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:22 pm

Vader wrote:LOL! ....you're right!, everyone is different. That's what makes "The Mask" the elusive prize in mastering cpap therapy. The FX is another one of those masks that some love and some hate. But I've gotten my best therapy ever, with that mask.
Well, I got my turbinate reduction scheduled today, it's gonna be in October, so the next time insurance pays for a headgear (around January) I'm going to try the Swift FX or similar. But for now, gotta be a FFM.

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Re: FFM and chinstrap

Post by asylvia » Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:25 am

i love the swift fx for comfort, but i think i'm beginning to mouth breathe, so ffm it is.