O.T. (Sort of): Food for Thought
- Slartybartfast
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Re: Food for Thought
Add up the numbers you just quoted, then compare them with those on this site:http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-prim ... continuum/
I just cut out everything I could think of that had carbs in it and stuck with it. I'm at a point now where I lose a pound or so a week, and I'm happy with that rate. But I weigh myself and chart my blood pressure and pulse rate every morning when I get up, so I'm always aware of the numbers. And that way you can quickly tell what happened because you ate this or that during the past few days.
But like I said earlier, I didn't do this intending to diet. I just decided to cut the carbs out and eat differently. Once you make that commitment, you don't look back. And after a while you won't want to.
I just cut out everything I could think of that had carbs in it and stuck with it. I'm at a point now where I lose a pound or so a week, and I'm happy with that rate. But I weigh myself and chart my blood pressure and pulse rate every morning when I get up, so I'm always aware of the numbers. And that way you can quickly tell what happened because you ate this or that during the past few days.
But like I said earlier, I didn't do this intending to diet. I just decided to cut the carbs out and eat differently. Once you make that commitment, you don't look back. And after a while you won't want to.
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That Mark's Daily Apple site is a good one. His Grok character got me thinking though. Don't our teeth tell us something about our evolution? I read in a health book many years back that the type of teeth in our mouths supports the idea that we developed as omnivores, eating both meat and non-meat, but that our teeth lean more towards herbivore than carnivore. Wouldn't that suggest that for much our evolutionary development we relied more on eating non-meat foods than on meat?Slartybartfast wrote:Add up the numbers you just quoted, then compare them with those on this site:http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-prim ... continuum/
Of course, many of those non-meat foods available to our ancient selves may have been more low carbohydrate types. I'm just bringing this up for the sake of discussion, since I do think the low carb high protein approach, and the writings of folks like Eades and Taubes and Sisson, are all very interesting.
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Low carb diet update:
Since starting low carb diet on 8/1/11, I lost 25 lbs as of 9/19/11!
Like others here have experienced, I lost the weight without hardly even trying...
Since starting low carb diet on 8/1/11, I lost 25 lbs as of 9/19/11!
Like others here have experienced, I lost the weight without hardly even trying...
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- Lizistired
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That's great Vader! Glad to hear it's working for you.
I think I didn't increase my protein enough this summer with increased activity and I think I lost some muscle mass. So I'm going to the gym 2-3 times a week to get that back.
The great thing is since I started this Jan 21st, I have either lost or stayed the same. I didn't change anything else because I wanted to see if it was sustainable. I don't want to have to go to the gym 6 days a week. I don't miss the starches and never cared much for sweets. So it works for me.
What bothers me is all the bacon, omlettes, steak, dark meat skin on chicken and cheese I passed on while I was eating those "healthy whole grains"!
I think I didn't increase my protein enough this summer with increased activity and I think I lost some muscle mass. So I'm going to the gym 2-3 times a week to get that back.
The great thing is since I started this Jan 21st, I have either lost or stayed the same. I didn't change anything else because I wanted to see if it was sustainable. I don't want to have to go to the gym 6 days a week. I don't miss the starches and never cared much for sweets. So it works for me.
What bothers me is all the bacon, omlettes, steak, dark meat skin on chicken and cheese I passed on while I was eating those "healthy whole grains"!
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RLOL!!!Lizistired wrote: What bothers me is all the bacon, omlettes, steak, dark meat skin on chicken and cheese I passed on while I was eating those "healthy whole grains"!
Ain't that the truth!
I'll tell you what else really kills me....although my cholesterol was never really a problem for me
@165 , my triglycerides used to be pretty high (about 219)
...just did bloodwork and my cholesterol (after eating all that bacon, eggs, steak, etc.) was 120!
Triglycerides 122 . The doc was quite surprised and of course, very pleased. He asked what my secret was, and I said I'm on the "high cholesterol diet"
Also, I've been really enjoying unsweetened almond milk lately. I had no idea that stuff was SO good!
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I haven't been for blood work yet. I try to stay away from doctors. He has always said everything looked fine, but after going through my old lab results, I think my fasting blood glucose would have been a concern to me if I had known then what I know now.
I like Westsoy organic unsweeted soymilk. Unsweetened anything is getting hard to find though. I found the best deal on it at Walmart. Under $4 for 64 oz carton. I'm going to go back to putting that in my coffee and lay off the cream and half and half in my coffee for a bit.
I like Westsoy organic unsweeted soymilk. Unsweetened anything is getting hard to find though. I found the best deal on it at Walmart. Under $4 for 64 oz carton. I'm going to go back to putting that in my coffee and lay off the cream and half and half in my coffee for a bit.
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I eat a balanced diet and love it. I feel like crap with no carbs and feel hungry without some fat and protein. My solution was balance. Harder to put together at first but much easier to live with over time.
No carbs = No potatoes!
No meat = No steak!
Tried life both ways and NOOOOOO way. However a low to no carb diet can be useful to drop a ton of weight. Guess what happens when you start eating carbs again?
Todays intake:
Breakfast sandwich meal:
Two eggs fried (olive oil)
Two pieces of whole grain toast
One piece of cheese
One glass whole milk (yeah, I said whole milk!)
Calories 650-700
No snack needed
Lunch:
Lunch sandwich:
Two pieces whole grain toast
Lean meat or "bean paste" I make that by smashing great northern beans, add garlic and olive oil (lots of protein, very filling)
One half Avacado (on the sandwich)
One glass of whole milk (yeah, I said whole milk again)
Calories: 500-650
Enough fat and protein I usually do not need a snack. If I do its a banana usually, sometimes some almonds and red wine. (100-250 calories)
Dinner:
Salmon
Whole wheat pasta toasted in roasted red pepper olive oil with fresh parmesan cheese
Roasted asparagus and fennel (wife loves fennel bulbs)
Fresh spinach salad with cranberry and sliced almonds, home made vinaigrette
Calories: 700-850
Sweet snack, blueberries are common but I hound the wife to hunt down pomegranates (pricey!!!)
That and 30-60 minutes of exercise a day I lost 100 pounds in eight months. It did take a while to build up our recipes but I would never cut out fats, meats or carbs. If not trying to lose weight which I am not at the moment with the snack I consume about 2500 calories balanced. Barely enough to maintain weight when at a healthy weight with exercise for a guy thats 6'1. When I was overweight the fat just melted off my body it seemed. If not exercising I just cut out the snacks and still maintain weight.
Real food tastes real good by the way, avoid all the processed crap out there. Oh yeah, if you smoke...stop it!
No carbs = No potatoes!
No meat = No steak!
Tried life both ways and NOOOOOO way. However a low to no carb diet can be useful to drop a ton of weight. Guess what happens when you start eating carbs again?
Todays intake:
Breakfast sandwich meal:
Two eggs fried (olive oil)
Two pieces of whole grain toast
One piece of cheese
One glass whole milk (yeah, I said whole milk!)
Calories 650-700
No snack needed
Lunch:
Lunch sandwich:
Two pieces whole grain toast
Lean meat or "bean paste" I make that by smashing great northern beans, add garlic and olive oil (lots of protein, very filling)
One half Avacado (on the sandwich)
One glass of whole milk (yeah, I said whole milk again)
Calories: 500-650
Enough fat and protein I usually do not need a snack. If I do its a banana usually, sometimes some almonds and red wine. (100-250 calories)
Dinner:
Salmon
Whole wheat pasta toasted in roasted red pepper olive oil with fresh parmesan cheese
Roasted asparagus and fennel (wife loves fennel bulbs)
Fresh spinach salad with cranberry and sliced almonds, home made vinaigrette
Calories: 700-850
Sweet snack, blueberries are common but I hound the wife to hunt down pomegranates (pricey!!!)
That and 30-60 minutes of exercise a day I lost 100 pounds in eight months. It did take a while to build up our recipes but I would never cut out fats, meats or carbs. If not trying to lose weight which I am not at the moment with the snack I consume about 2500 calories balanced. Barely enough to maintain weight when at a healthy weight with exercise for a guy thats 6'1. When I was overweight the fat just melted off my body it seemed. If not exercising I just cut out the snacks and still maintain weight.
Real food tastes real good by the way, avoid all the processed crap out there. Oh yeah, if you smoke...stop it!
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- Slartybartfast
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Moderation is the key. I think our Western diet has become markedly immoderate in recent years.
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I agree, the secret is to stop snacking between meals and not drink calories. If you do that you have to eat healthier meals so you are not hungry between. If you eat crap meals your blood sugar spikes and you crash making you want to snack.
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Heading for Lynchburg, VA tomorrow morning via Charlotte to check out college with my son. Stated my meal preference as "Diabetic" even though I'm not, hoping to get something without too many carbs. Not many choices when you're stuck in a metal tube at 40,000 feet at 8 miles/minute. Wish me luck.
As long as I have your rapt attention, I'm in to the new book Wheat Belly by cardiologist, Dr. William Davis that I saw reviewed on Tom Naughton's website http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/ ... -part-two/. Picked up the book at Amazon and will read it there and back. http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywor ... heat+belly
The author's thesis appears to be that modern wheat ain't your Grandma's wheat. More once I finish.
As long as I have your rapt attention, I'm in to the new book Wheat Belly by cardiologist, Dr. William Davis that I saw reviewed on Tom Naughton's website http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/ ... -part-two/. Picked up the book at Amazon and will read it there and back. http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywor ... heat+belly
The author's thesis appears to be that modern wheat ain't your Grandma's wheat. More once I finish.
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- Lizistired
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Looking forward to your review. From what I've read about it, it has to make you wonder about all grains. Like "Round-Up Ready" soybeans...
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IN the meantime, there are several trailers on Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uexJlVLb ... er&list=UL is one.
FWIW my 82 year old mom is a Type 1 diabetic. After hearing from me and the wife, she decided to go Paleo, too. She's one of these people who tests her blood about 8 times/day and is in wonderful health. She remarked that immediately after losing the carbs she found she no longer needed to take the short acting insulin, just the long-acting stuff once in the morning. She says she also feels a lot better now, and she attributes that to a more constant blood sugar and insulin level throughout the day.
But Sunday morning she just had to have a bowl of oatmeal with milk and she said she was surprised how it spiked her blood sugar, which required her to take short acting insulin to bring it down. So she's a believer now. Grains, even "heart-healthy"oatmeal, are to be avoided for the most part.
So there's another believer. Who's next?
FWIW my 82 year old mom is a Type 1 diabetic. After hearing from me and the wife, she decided to go Paleo, too. She's one of these people who tests her blood about 8 times/day and is in wonderful health. She remarked that immediately after losing the carbs she found she no longer needed to take the short acting insulin, just the long-acting stuff once in the morning. She says she also feels a lot better now, and she attributes that to a more constant blood sugar and insulin level throughout the day.
But Sunday morning she just had to have a bowl of oatmeal with milk and she said she was surprised how it spiked her blood sugar, which required her to take short acting insulin to bring it down. So she's a believer now. Grains, even "heart-healthy"oatmeal, are to be avoided for the most part.
So there's another believer. Who's next?
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I'm thinking that if I want to deal with my dad, It needs to be an I cook, you eat, no cookies, oatmeal, chips, fruit, ... we do meat, eggs,. I'm not sure how to deal with his meds.... but my guess is he could get off of them.
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Back from checking out Liberty University. What a great place. Son wants to be a missionary pilot which means he needs a commercial ticket with airframe/powerplant endorsement, so when he returns from whever he ends up going to, he'll have something to fall back on to help me pay back his loans! My son kept saying that the place was "totally sick" which I interpret to mean that he liked it.
Finished Wheat Belly on 5500 mile (total) plane ride. The author makes a compelling case for modern wheat being something to be avoided, especially if you have problems with gluten intolerance. Scary statistics on the association with certain GI cancers and IBS/celiac disease http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease or gluten allergies.
My cousin is a clinical shrink and after reading the book and going Paleo, she is now recommending the book to her patients any staff at the VA who will listen to her.
And Mom, at 82 is off her short acting insulin and has reduced her dose of the long-acting stuff and marvels at how constant her blood sugar is now.
Finished Wheat Belly on 5500 mile (total) plane ride. The author makes a compelling case for modern wheat being something to be avoided, especially if you have problems with gluten intolerance. Scary statistics on the association with certain GI cancers and IBS/celiac disease http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease or gluten allergies.
My cousin is a clinical shrink and after reading the book and going Paleo, she is now recommending the book to her patients any staff at the VA who will listen to her.
And Mom, at 82 is off her short acting insulin and has reduced her dose of the long-acting stuff and marvels at how constant her blood sugar is now.