Encore Pro 2 data

radioboy104 wrote:Still no real improvement, it's getting a bit disheartening now. The machine is still waking me up a couple of times a night and with a very sore and dry throat. Humidity setting on 3 (mx is 4 or 5?).

Waking up with a sore/dry throat is a telling figure. You are opening your mouth during sleep. What type of mask do you use?

nudave wrote: Waking up with a sore/dry throat is a telling figure. You are opening your mouth during sleep. What type of mask do you use?

I am using a full face (Resmed Quattro FX?? from memory - I'm at work at the moment). It was determined I may need that because I find it difficult to get enough air through the nose, in part due to having the schnoz broken twice playing sport.

How many pages total are your reports?

radioboy104 wrote:Still no real improvement, it's getting a bit disheartening now.

AHI average past 7 nights says 9.O (twice what we could like)

Your APAP seems to be set wide open with 4 cm minimum and 20 maximum. Your average pressure is around 8 cm.
When the minimum pressure is set too low the machine cannot respond quick enough to prevent the events well. Some of the events will come and go before the machine gets there.

If you are comfortable changing the pressure, I would suggest setting minimum at 8 cm. You might need a bit more, might not but also watch that CA index.

Do you wake often during the night? Is it possible the increases in pressure are disturbing your sleep?
Who set the machine this way? Wide open?

With an AHI of 9 average over the past week that is enough to explain the crappy feeling.

Please use SleepyHead so you can see the nightly details until we figure out the problem with Pro. With 7 nights of data if you choose detailed data (not summary) there should be 12 pages of reports to scroll through. Do you have 12 pages and it is in those pages that you see "no data available". If so Pro isn't playing nice on your computer. If you don't have 12 pages to scroll through then your procedure is off somewhere.

is it potentially that you've loaded the 32 bit program and should have loaded the 64 bit program?

Gumby, Pugsy, Cflame - I thought I'd reply to the last couple of posts in one post.

With Encore Pro on the detailed radio button, I click view and all that comes up is a blank page and a red circle (like cursor). Waiting a few minutes in case the report is too large doesn't seem to make a difference. So, all I am getting so far is info from the trend radio button. Summary button doesn't work either. So no 12 pages... all I get is 2 pages when use the Trend radio button.

As far as I am aware I installed (initially) the 64 bit (I have WIndows 7 64 bit) but I will have to check when I go home this afternoon. I will try to use sleephead as suggested but how do I pull all that data into a jpeg, can the info be exported or do I have to try and do a screen dump of it? I did noticed sleephead seems to spit out a lot of info with detailed graphs (every 7-8 mins approx???).

As for the set pressure, the place that hired the machine told (after I called them to say that the machine is waking me up every hour or so) that the settings should be 7 min, 20 max as that is the default setting. I am happy to changed these to a more narrow range. If I do that in the "hidden" settings, will it change the range when using in APAP mode or do I have to have it set to run all night in regular PAP mode?

I hope this makes sense, I'm 42 years old, feeling like 82 lately, brain and body not really functioning normally of late lol.

On the summary page top graph for pressures I see the purple line for minimum pressure appearing to be below the 5 mark (not above it) which leads me to believe that it is set at 4 cm minimum pressure. Could you please go into the forbidden area and check to see what the settings are? Do you have the clinician manual that tells you how to do this if you don't know?

I have a new Windows 7 64 bit laptop and I installed Pro just fine. Works as it should. I also used it on 32 bit Vista computer without problems. It is a bit slow when I ask for viewing the detailed reports (circle has to think for a bit) it doesn't take minutes (though it seems like it).

To get images of SleepyHead just use the Snipping Tool on your computer (Win 7 Home prem has it Home basic may not)
to capture and image of the report. It may default to .png file..just use the file drop down menu to change to jpeg and save it. Though png file might work.
All that you need is a screen shot image of SleepyHead report. However you get the screen shot is up to you, Snipping tool is handy.

I thought Sleepyhead had a built in screenshot tool.

radioboy104 wrote:With Encore Pro on the detailed radio button, I click view and all that comes up is a blank page and a red circle (like cursor). Waiting a few minutes in case the report is too large doesn't seem to make a difference.

As for the time Encore takes to process things much of it will depend on your computer. Remind me again what kind of computer you are using.

In any case, there are many times when Encore is busy processing data but No Message is ever displayed, so patience is the key. Give it time to help you. Tho Sleepyhead may be a bit faster, I am sure there will be times it also is busy processing all your sleep data, be patient, but do give it a test drive.

EDIT: Try to review some of your older data like yesterdays to see how this works.

Pugsy wrote:On the summary page top graph for pressures I see the purple line for minimum pressure appearing to be below the 5 mark (not above it) which leads me to believe that it is set at 4 cm minimum pressure. Could you please go into the forbidden area and check to see what the settings are? Do you have the clinician manual that tells you how to do this if you don't know?

It is set to min 4, max 9. I had played with it before and changed max from 20. I have now set it as 8 min, 10 max. Not sure if that will give the desired effect but here's hoping

GumbyCT wrote:I thought Sleepyhead had a built in screenshot tool.

As for the time Encore takes to process things much of it will depend on your computer. Remind me again what kind of computer you are using.

In any case, there are many times when Encore is busy processing data but No Message is ever displayed, so patience is the key. Give it time to help you. Tho Sleepyhead may be a bit faster, I am sure there will be times it also is busy processing all your sleep data, be patient, but do give it a test drive.

Am running windows 7 home premium, 64 bit. Dual core processor etc. I'll try again and be a bit more patient However it does come up with an error in the main screen every time saying "unable to create the report to display. Please contact product support for help."

Can't locate a screenshot tool in sleepyhead v.0.8.1.

radioboy104 wrote:

GumbyCT wrote:I thought Sleepyhead had a built in screenshot tool.

As for the time Encore takes to process things much of it will depend on your computer. Remind me again what kind of computer you are using.

In any case, there are many times when Encore is busy processing data but No Message is ever displayed, so patience is the key. Give it time to help you. Tho Sleepyhead may be a bit faster, I am sure there will be times it also is busy processing all your sleep data, be patient, but do give it a test drive.

Am running windows 7 home premium, 64 bit. Dual core processor etc. I'll try again and be a bit more patient

Can't locate a screenshot tool in sleepyhead v.0.8.1.

jedimark wrote:I just added a built in screenshot feature to the source code (will work by clicking Tools ->Screenshot)

Gumby, I can't find Tools in latest SleepyHead. I just now looked.

radioboy104 wrote: It is set to min 4, max 9. I had played with it before and changed max from 20. I have now set it as 8 min, 10 max. Not sure if that will give the desired effect but here's hoping

When I first started therapy I was prescribed straight cpap of 8 cm. Since I had bought myself a fancy APAP I wanted to use APAP so I started with 8 min and 10 max. AHI would run 9 to 10. Maximum pressure was almost always pegged out. So I increased maximum pressure to 12 but still left min at 8. Still had AHI 9 to 10 with lots of clusters of events.
So then I started increasing the minimum in 0.5 increments and I watched the AHI drop. When I got to min of 10 my AHI was most often less than 2. I do have maximum at 20 because during my experiments I found that sometimes I need 18 cm for some super duper events. Pressure changes have never bothered me but if they had I would have lowered the max and just let an occasional super ever happen (we can't kill them all anyway). My overall average pressure will range from 11 to 12. I occasionally will see 90 % number higher when I happen to have one of those super duper events requiring much higher pressures. When I don't have those events my 90% pressure will be just about my overall average.

I can tell you that once I cut the AHI down to 4 to 5 I felt better but still had a cluster or 2. When I got the AHI to 2 or below I could see considerable improvement over even the 4 to 5 AHI because I had finally broke up the clusters.

The minimum pressure is critical to effective therapy. It will only increase in small increments so you have to give it a head start. If minimum is at 4 cm and you need 10 cm to prevent an event there is no way the machine can reach 10 cm in time. Maximum...well the machine won't even go there unless it has a reason to. It will go there to try to fix a leak and this can be a problem because it feeds the leak and can make it worse. If leaks are not an issue and the machine doesn't sense any event precursors requiring a higher pressure then it won't even go there.

While "good" AHI numbers don't guarantee the miracle we want, they will give us a better chance at having it. AHI of 9 won't. So we always say get the therapy optimized (at least on paper) with good AHI and no leaks. Then if still feeling crappy start looking at other factors like fragmented sleep, pain, meds, etc in effort to figure out what is preventing the good numbers from letting us feel them.

Unfortunately there is more to effective therapy than just putting on a mask and setting APAP 4 to 20 and thinking it will create the miracle.

If the "built-in screenshot tool" is not there I guess you will have to do it the old fashioned way.

I'm trying to install my card reader. I have Encore Viewer 1.0 software, but the reader won't install. It says I need EncorePro 1.3 or later. The Encore Viewer IS later. Anybody have any ideas? I'm running Win XP.

Could there be a issue with radioboy104's SQL on his PC? like maybe it needs a reinstall?