NEW!!!! PR S1 Pro w/Auto IQ !!!!

ThomasMcKean wrote:
This one here:

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/respir ... utoiq.html

I don't see any indication there that you can reset the 30 day count. It seems to me that you can do "Auto trial" for any period between 3 and 30 days, but each day you do it, you burn up one of your 30 days. If you did a 30 day "Auto trial," then you can't auto trial again. Or if you did 3 10 day auto trials, you're also used up.

Do you see anything that indicates differently?

archangle wrote:

ThomasMcKean wrote:
This one here:

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/respir ... utoiq.html

I don't see any indication there that you can reset the 30 day count. It seems to me that you can do "Auto trial" for any period between 3 and 30 days, but each day you do it, you burn up one of your 30 days. If you did a 30 day "Auto trial," then you can't auto trial again. Or if you did 3 10 day auto trials, you're also used up.

Do you see anything that indicates differently?

Umm...I thought I did? Lemme look again...

K here is what I saw that made me think so.

If the machine is placed back into Auto-Trial Phase mode to determine a new ideal pressure, the Auto-Check Phase would monitor and change pressure as needed every 30 hours, staying within 3 cm/H2O of the new ideal pressure.

Now I could be wrong but I see that as an ability to reset. Do yew see context that indicates this is not true?

ThomasMcKean wrote:

archangle wrote:

ThomasMcKean wrote:
This one here:

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/respir ... utoiq.html

I don't see any indication there that you can reset the 30 day count. It seems to me that you can do "Auto trial" for any period between 3 and 30 days, but each day you do it, you burn up one of your 30 days. If you did a 30 day "Auto trial," then you can't auto trial again. Or if you did 3 10 day auto trials, you're also used up.

Do you see anything that indicates differently?

Umm...I thought I did? Lemme look again...

K here is what I saw that made me think so.

If the machine is placed back into Auto-Trial Phase mode to determine a new ideal pressure, the Auto-Check Phase would monitor and change pressure as needed every 30 hours, staying within 3 cm/H2O of the new ideal pressure.

Now I could be wrong but I see that as an ability to reset. Do yew see context that indicates this is not true?

You could do auto trial for 10 days, then do auto check for a long time. Then you could go do another 10 days of auto trial. I agree you can do auto trial more than once, but it seems to me that you can only get a total of 30 days of auto trial. In the above example, you'd only have 10 days of autotrial left if you decided to do it again.

Otherwise, why say "All 30 nights do not need to be used at one time. A minimum of 3 nights can be used to complete an Auto-Trial Phase. The remaining nights can be used at any time in the future. "

archangle wrote:You could do auto trial for 10 days, then do auto check for a long time. Then you could go do another 10 days of auto trial. I agree you can do auto trial more than once, but it seems to me that you can only get a total of 30 days of auto trial. In the above example, you'd only have 10 days of autotrial left if you decided to do it again.

Otherwise, why say "All 30 nights do not need to be used at one time. A minimum of 3 nights can be used to complete an Auto-Trial Phase. The remaining nights can be used at any time in the future. "

Okay I will give yew that. But at the same time, I do not see anything that says yew CAN'T reset it. It really is ambiguous, and I bet that is on purpose!

Hi. I am not sure and will check it out tomorrow, but I think that when you go into Clinician mode, and scroll up and down the menu, there is a selection for "reset". Not sure what it resets, or if it there for sure, but I think there is a reset somewhere in the menu. Scott

xenosfrog wrote:Hi. I am not sure and will check it out tomorrow, but I think that when you go into Clinician mode, and scroll up and down the menu, there is a selection for "reset". Not sure what it resets, or if it there for sure, but I think there is a reset somewhere in the menu.

The reset in the therapy part of the clinical menu (where AHI and leaks are shown) will reset any session hours to zero. Erases all prior data and hours of use.
Only the overall machine hours are unchanged.

Reset the data to zero will effectively renew the 30 days for APAP trial. Keep doing it every 30 days and you have an APAP.

Since it resets all data including hours of use...not something that one wants to do when DME is still checking compliance.
I would probably also want to use a blank SD card just in case something on the SD card goes back on the machine's internal memory.

This has been confirmed by forum members who have been using this machine for several months.
So there is a way to get more than 30 days of APAP out of the machine.

Regarding the cheap ass doctors who prescribe inferior machines to patients, merely to squeeze out a few more pennies of profit: Next time you visit said doctors, ask them this: "If you prescribed yourself a machine for your own personal use, would you get yourself a basic 'brick' or a top of the line auto model? Hmmm, wonder what the response would be. I guess us users are all too stupid to handle all that complicated data!

Sir NoddinOff wrote:Regarding the cheap ass doctors who prescribe inferior machines to patients, merely to squeeze out a few more pennies of profit: Next time you visit said doctors, ask them this: "If you prescribed yourself a machine for your own personal use, would you get yourself a basic 'brick' or a top of the line auto model? Hmmm, wonder what the response would be. I guess us users are all too stupid to handle all that complicated data!

Sadly, I think a lot of doctors wouldn't know better. They tend to believe their own lies sometimes.

A good share of these "sleep doctors" haven't got a clue about insurance issues and CPAP models. They leave that up to the DME providers. All the "sleep doctors" do is write a generic script for the type of PAP needed, i.e. CPAP, bi-level PAP, one of the more sophistiated PAPs. Most of them have no clue at all that an APAP is the same HCPCS (insurance) code as a straight CPAP. I'd venture a guess that many don't even have the slightest idea that a compliance data only CPAP is the same HCPCS code as a fully data capable CPAP. Hale, we're lucky that they are aware of the EPR and x-Flex features are available!!

my original script... was actually written out by the DME... all my doc had to do was to sign it. I had her change it before she did.