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“It is quite uncomfortable. It is actually not very nice to breathe through the thing. It feels like you can’t breathe out. . . . It is a 50% acceptable result, there’s an additional amount who respond but it is not good enough, and there is a clear number who do not respond at all. . . . It doesn’t work in everybody. . . . It works in some but not others. . . . Don’t get your hopes up. It’s not going to put CPAP out of business.”--David Rapoport, head of NYU Sleep Center, at presentation to Manhattan AWAKE Sleep Apnea Support Group in New York City on May 5, 2010.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trbAfp6pzZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQtbQs6Xt0Q

Just exactly how far up the schozz does the thing go?
It looks like a little filter thing--not a catheter.

chunkyfrog wrote:Just exactly how far up the schozz does the thing go?
It looks like a little filter thing--not a catheter.

It's like a bandaid on the outside of the nostrils:

The idea is that back pressure builds up, since you can breathe in without resistance, but you get resistance as you breathe out. When it works, it works, because the back pressure inflates the entire upper airway, much like CPAP. The difference is that it doesn't use a blower to generate pressure; it uses your natural breathing to get the pressure. Not that it FEELS natural for most. And when it doesn't work, it doesn't. Besides, it certainly doesn't collect data. The biggest problem is that using them every night ain't cheap.

I suppose that for someone who absolutely couldn't stomach cpap machine that a 50% chance of having a 50% reduction of events using these things would be better than nothing at all. I just can't see how they wouldn't be more of a PITA than a mask and machine though. I have to breathe through my nose and if it isn't completely open (both in and out) I don't see how I could sleep.

Also sad that for something marketed with so much hype that the only reports on is usage is thinly veiled spam comments to resurrect an old thread.

One day some idiot is gonna think about lab-ratting one of those provent-filter thingies onto their mask where the hose is supposed to go to try sleeping that way without having to use a new set of filters every night.

Wait a minute! I just thought of it, didn't I? So I guess I'M that idiot!!!

At least I know it's a stupid idea. Especially for the far end of the hose of my LT. Boy, wouldn't that be dumb!

I think I need professional help.

Help me, Pugsy! HELP ME!!!!

jnk wrote:I think I need professional help.

Help me, Pugsy! HELP ME!!!!

You and I are too much alike..we get bored and start looking for ways to get into trouble or try something new..or push the limits on something. At least I have the new Bella Loops for my Swift FX coming next week to ease the boredom a bit. Otherwise I might try to figure out how to hack into machines and change the firmware and really get into trouble.

Still trying to find a S9 VPAP Auto to have just for grins. So I pass some time shopping the black market for one and hoping I don't spot one because I don't have the cash to lay the hammer down right now anyway.

I guess we BOTH need help, then.

Why didn't I snag a pair of those Provent doo-dads at the A.W.A.K.E. meeting for experiments?! Darn it!

S9 VPAP Auto may be my next machine, so I'll be interested to hear your take--cause we BOTH know yer gonna snag one eventually.

jnk wrote:S9 VPAP Auto may be my next machine, so I'll be interested to hear your take--cause we BOTH know yer gonna snag one eventually.

Oh....I have already had a chance to try the S9 VPAP Auto. One of the forum members was nice enough to let me borrow theirs so I could offer my own comparison for how it feels compared to my PR S1 BiPap Auto. Most people don't get a chance to actually compare the different brands. I was lucky and got to scratch that itch about "what does the other brand feel like"...
I have commented on it here some...need to update it. viewtopic/t71442/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=71 ... te#p656179
Page 3 probably has the VPAP stuff, might have a little at bottom of page 2.

In all honesty...both do a super job. Both are nearly silent. Both are very easy to adjust to breathing with. I fixed the heated hose difference with my Hybernite 2300.
I don't really, really need to have the VPAP for backup... I just want one. I am really doing extremely well on my PR S1 BiPap but I would like to break up the boredome sometimes and play around with the subtle differences in the VPAP. Rather silly of me I suppose but that is just me.

I do know that with the change from APAP to BiPap....I finally had the "miracle" everyone talks about and I had the "miracle" with both brands of Bilevel machines.

It may take me a bit to find a VPAP Auto S9 since they are so new (that I can afford) but I will eventually find one. I can't use my insurance (which has never bought me a machine) because I don't have BiPap RX. darn it.

I still think that the "tape it to your nose every night" idea would be an interesting way to attach a CPAP to you. Take the same disposable adhesive bandage idea, remove the valve, and use it sort of like a nasal prong mask.

Of course, you'd need the disposable part to be somewhat reasonably priced.

cangelos

I've used Provent for 7 nights now. Got a 30 day supply for $69 on the web, but the 90 day supply brings it down to $180, or basically $2 per night. My husband has said that I no longer snore, and I think I am more awake. My doctor said I am the first patient of hers to use this and she would only prescribe if I agreed to a sleep study after 3 weeks of use. I have it scheduled for March 6, 2012 and will post results afterward. Last year I tried very unsuccessfully to use CPAP and couldn't sleep one minute. I think I may have been up for 30 minutes the first night I used Provent. Since then, I just go to sleep as normal. If the sleep study shows this to be effective, CPAP companies will go out of business. I am guessing as more people use this and the demand increases, competition should bring the price down. I look at the price as I do some of the medicines that have been prescribed to me. While $2 a day can is a bit high, treatment for stroke or worse would be much more. So far, so good.

cangelos wrote: CPAP companies will go out of business.

Horse manure.

(Seems to be my phrase of the day.)

Cangelos:
Listen to your doctor--the sleep study is a MUST!
Maybe there is some weird way these things might work on a FEW people;
--but I do not see it working for anything other than a big money-maker
--at the expense of people who are having trouble adjusting to CPAP.
This can be a difficult and uncomfortable experience; but it is so very worth it.
Please give it your best shot--you and your loved ones deserve no less.
Mask fit/comfort is the main reason most CPAP drop-outs occur.
Do not give up until you have the right mask. Denial kills.

If Provent would put CPAP companies out of business it would have already happened. Provent has been out there for years. I have chronic nasal stuffiness and cannot fathom the idea of further restricting my nose breathing. I am an inveterate mouth breather so use a total face mask for comfort.
I am really glad it works for you and appreciate your positive review.

cangelos wrote:CPAP companies will go out of business.

To repeat, here are words from a research doc who was involved in studies of Provent:

jnk wrote:

. . . “It’s not going to put CPAP out of business.”--David Rapoport, head of NYU Sleep Center, at presentation to Manhattan AWAKE Sleep Apnea Support Group in New York City on May 5, 2010.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trbAfp6pzZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQtbQs6Xt0Q