Frozen Tongue??

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Frozen Tongue??

Post by Gabe » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:52 am

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Although my data is good, my mouth and tongue felt frozen. I have never experienced the severity of the dry mouth as I have last night. I have had a dry mouth other times, but not as bad as last night. Is it due to the increase in pressure? Input, please. BTW, Onkor was similar on the data. Just checking! You can see why I was flabbergasted with the reports between the night before and last nights differences. Thank you. I breathe through the nose as much as I can. I have post nasal drip, bronchitis and I believe I have an allergy, which was never diagnosed. Seems like I've always have a cold. Nose is pretty stuffed at night, try hard to breathe through it. Last night a lot of mouth breathing. Kick it around. Bear with me, please as I have a hard time conveying my thoughts, at times.

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Re: Frozen Tongue??

Post by Pugsy » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:03 am

Yes, very likely the extreme dry mouth related to that pressure. Simply lots of air going into mouth.
Looks like some of that pressure increase was prompted by leak.

Since you don't seem to need those high pressures why not lower the maximum pressure and see if that runaway pressure is easier to control. Your AHI was quite good though. How about lowering max from 17 to 12? See if leak and pressure stabilize and on the off chance some of those RE arousals were related to pressure changes maybe reduce them too.

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Re: Frozen Tongue??

Post by Gabe » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:12 am

Thanks, Brenda, will do.

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Re: Frozen Tongue??

Post by Janknitz » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:31 am

Looks like leak to me. In the Quattro you open mouth can break the seal just enough to cause this. I agree that the increased pressure may have contributed. Try to narrow the pressure a bit but keep a close eye on your charts.

Also-you need to tackle that nose! Maybe it's time to see an ENT/allergist?
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Re: Frozen Tongue??

Post by SleepingUgly » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:50 am

I haven't kept up with your various posts, which seem to pop up in multiple threads (making it harder for me to remember what's going on with you)... I agree that you have to get the nose under control and should consult an ENT and/or allergist (I'd start with the ENT). Your RERAs are still high, but given the problems you're having with leak, etc., you should address those first.
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Re: Frozen Tongue??

Post by Bright Choice » Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:34 pm

Janknitz wrote:Also-you need to tackle that nose! Maybe it's time to see an ENT/allergist?
Agreed! And here are some links to get started on the nose and sinus issues in addition to seeing your ENT/allergist:

http://sleeptreatment.com/allergy-video-series This Nasal Breathing series is really excellent. It is by Dr. Barry Krakow

http://doctorstevenpark.com/unstuff-your-stuffy-nose This series on Unstuff Your Stuffy Nose is a free ebook by Dr. Steven Park. He posts here under the name sypark. It's also excellent. Robysue directed me to this info.

I have had the same experience a couple of times. I never thought of it as a "frozen tongue" but that describes it exactly. I think it is from the air blowing through your mouth and drying out your tongue. So, work on getting the nose open so you can keep your mouth closed. And, work on the leaks.

Also, consider Breathe Right strips. They work great!

And last... there have been comments from others on this site about the "pink slime" that builds up in the xpap humidifiers. It has been identified by others as "biofilm". Just this morning I read a comment by Dr. Parks that others are correlating biofilm and sinus infections. Bronchitis could certainly be an issue too. I know others here are very casual about cleaning their humidifiers and putting new water in daily. Personally, I think that can really set you up for problems. My absolute favorite for cleaning xpap items is Control III sold by our hosts at cpap.com. It is antiviral, antivacterial and antifungal - you can't beat that! They say that it is actually cheaper than using vinegar and water. If you buy some, buy the larger bottle and not the "kit". You can buy a larger container (1 gallon with a lid at Ace hardware for around $3). Having a larger container allows you to dump everything into the container and you then can let it sit for the 10 minutes required. I use it weekly.

Good luck!

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Re: Frozen Tongue??

Post by busylady » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:03 pm

Thanks for the info on Control III. We are on well water, and I'm hesitant about putting that into my gear to clean it. Our pet water bowls get that pink gunge rather quickly, of course they are outside in the heat/environment. I did use vinegar and well water today -- cleaned twice since starting this process.
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