Is it safe to tape mouth to prevent mouth leaks?

Been taping for 4 years + with 3" micropore surgical tape. AHI o.0 this a.m. always below 1.0. Even when power goes off, I am able to breathe through vent holes plus an alarm sounds on my machine that wakes me up also. Never had a problem. Good luck.

For the past few weeks there have been a few nights where I have awaken with my mouth dry. My charts, for these nights, show big spikes on leaks rate. So, last night I used micro tape and had zero leaks. My lips were a little sore but not bad. I'm going to try it again tonight.

Good old chap stick does the trick for me. Also, curl your lips in before taping so you are not putting the tape directly on your lips. good luck.

LinkC wrote:So, how do you propose to show that "taping kills even a small percentage of the people who do it"? Failing that, you agreed it's OK to "be telling people it's safe".

"Failing that, you agreed it's OK to "be telling people it's safe".

I'm sorry, but you need to get some sleep, you're imagining things now. I said nothing of the kind.

What do you know about mouth taping for CPAP users?

1) The medical professionals seem to think it's dangerous.

2) A few dozen anonymous people on an internet board report that they do it anyway.

3) Some of these people have survived CPAP or power failures while taped.

4) If any of these mouth tapers have died from it, their survivors have not reported it back to this board.

Sorry, but that's not sufficient proof to tell people it's safe.

thimarine wrote:Been taping for 4 years + with 3" micropore surgical tape. AHI o.0 this a.m. always below 1.0. Even when power goes off, I am able to breathe through vent holes plus an alarm sounds on my machine that wakes me up also. Never had a problem. Good luck.

Yes, if you wake up, you'll be OK. The question is will everyone wake up and what happens if they don't? Just because thimarine wakes up doesn't mean everyone else will wake up.

archangle wrote:

LinkC wrote:So, how do you propose to show that "taping kills even a small percentage of the people who do it"? Failing that, you agreed it's OK to "be telling people it's safe".

I'm sorry, but you need to get some sleep, you're imagining things now. I said nothing of the kind.

archangle wrote:If taping kills even a small percentage of the people who do it, we should not be telling people it's safe.

You have yet to demonstrate your "If". Ergo, it's OK to say it's safe..BY YOUR OWN CRITERIA.

Is air travel safe? Driving a car? Swimming? Sleeping? Standing on the corner (whether in Winslow, AZ or not)? Living in Joplin, MO? "A small percentage" have died doing EACH of those things. Yet we claim THOSE are safe.

Frankly, it was more dangerous for me not to tape and gain the XPAP benefit. I awoke one night with my sweetheart getting ready to place a pillow over my face to stop the noise.

We all do what works best for us. Nuff said.

lol@Brian

LinkC wrote:

archangle wrote:

LinkC wrote:So, how do you propose to show that "taping kills even a small percentage of the people who do it"? Failing that, you agreed it's OK to "be telling people it's safe".

I'm sorry, but you need to get some sleep, you're imagining things now. I said nothing of the kind.

archangle wrote:If taping kills even a small percentage of the people who do it, we should not be telling people it's safe.

You have yet to demonstrate your "If". Ergo, it's OK to say it's safe..BY YOUR OWN CRITERIA.

Go study logic, you're failing miserably in this discussion.

Example:

A: If there is coliform bacteria in this muddy creek water, it's unsafe to drink.
B: Is there coliform bacteria in the water?
A: I don't have any way to test the water.
B: AHA! Therefore, you admit it's safe to drink.

Do you agree with the statement, "If taping kills even a small percentage of the people who do it, we should not be telling people it's safe?"

I'm not claiming taping is unsafe. I admit it's possible it's safe.

You are claiming it is safe. I'm pointing out that you have no proof. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm pointing out that you have no proof. You have very little evidence.

You are claiming that because you haven't heard of anyone dying from taping, it's safe.

Example:

A: This muddy creek water that the health department says may have dangerous coliform bacteria is OK.
B: How do you know that?
A: I've drunk from it many times and I'm still alive.
B: Even if there is coliform bacteria in the water, not everyone who drinks it will die.
A: I've seen other people drink it and not die from it.
B: How many people have you seen drink the water?
A: I don't know, maybe a dozen.
B: How many of that dozen do you still see regularly?
A: 5 or 6.
B: What happened to the other 6 or 7?
A: I don't know.
B: Is it possible that they died from drinking the water and you just didn't hear about it?
A: I don't know.
B: Well, I can't say for sure it's unsafe, but I'm not going to tell people it's safe.
A: I think it's safe. I'm going to put up a sign that says "Safe drinking water."


You have a very small number of people whom you know of who tape. Please tell us how many people you know of who tape.

How long have you followed up on these people?

How many of these people have you lost track of and don't know what happened to them?

Can you prove that the people who disappeared didn't disappear because they died from taping?

What percent of the people you are tracking are known to still be alive after 1 year? 2 years? 5 years?

Assume you can prove that 80% of the tapers are still alive after 1 year, what have you proved? At best, you've proved that taping is fatal in less than 20% of the users per year.

I agree that taping is not 100% fatal.

Show me evidence that it's not, for instance, 5% fatal over a 5 year period.

Oh good grief, taping is not going to kill ya, as a matter of fact it's better than using a cpap with a bad leak. Stop trying to scare people!

Is there that kind of thing which detects the voltage of electrical equipment, when the electrical equipment stop working(voltage drops dramatically), the detector start to BEEP or make some noise to wake up the user? The detector can be plug into outlet, the power cord of CPAP plugs into the detector, so that if CPAP is broken, it wakes up the user even if electrcity is not down.
I didn't find this kind of thing from google. Actually I don't even know if this kind of detector exist. If someone knows its name, please post it here. I think this could be the safest way if tapes the mouth.
Many thanks to all of you.

beylow wrote:Is there that kind of thing which detects the voltage of electrical equipment, when the electrical equipment stop working(voltage drops dramatically), the detector start to BEEP or make some noise to wake up the user?

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/relian ... light.html

LinkC wrote:

beylow wrote:Is there that kind of thing which detects the voltage of electrical equipment, when the electrical equipment stop working(voltage drops dramatically), the detector start to BEEP or make some noise to wake up the user?

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/relian ... light.html

There is also an app called "Blackout Alarm" for those with Apple products for $0.99.

Bad advice? I wish I knew how to debate in red and all caps, but I guess that's only used by Elitists. Some should be re-named Chicken Little.

Guest wrote:Bad advice? I wish I knew how to debate in red and all caps, but I guess that's only used by Elitists. Some should be re-named Chicken Little.

And some people are like the people in New Orleans who said that there was no need to evacuate befor Katrina. After all, they had stayed there for all the hurricanes since they were born and the city never flooded before.