Announcing Onkor: free,open alternative to Encore Pro/Viewer

Thank you Dennis,
That works.
I was trying to group all the files by type instead of trying to do just a group of 3 by date.

thank you dennis!

made it work-- part of my confusion was not realizing what I was seeing

I have 330 data sets

going to bed -- will play in AM-- but wanted to say THANK YOU

i have no clue but i bet someone can write the code or whatever to go get the info off sd card without doing all that--
company software did it straight off card as i remember

good news ahi ,4 thanks again packer

Dork.

I have a request as a user, not a programmer by any stretch. I think it's important for us to understand what we're reading if we compare apples to apples, not apples and oranges. Viewer gives me one reading and your program gives me another on AHI. I think its due to the time capturing difference. Also it would be nice somehow for me to capture data by date rather than data numbers which mean nothing to me, the date 04/19/11 means something, just a suggestion.

@Dennis - You did a sensational job describing to Pugsy how to get our data files, I never would have guessed. Kudos to ya

Starlette

PS - I hope you don't mind me greeting you by the last part of your logon name. Don't feel comfortable by addressing you as Cpap.

Something I discovered using Onkor. It shows the computer time zone but when looking at the data the time was way off. 5 hours early. In my case -5 GMT. So it looked like I went to bed at 1730 (5:30 PM) when it was 10:30. Then I remembered the PR S1 is set to GMT so I changed time zone on Onkor to GMT and got the correct time to show.
Encore Pro is still off one hour due to DST. If I deactivate DST in Pro it is 2 hours off. Still haven't figured out the deal with that. Prior to DST all was fine. Wondering if Pro software is geared to the "old" date for DST to normally activate. Will see about that soon.

So far only uploaded one night of data.

Slartybartfast asked:

Is it just me, or does someone providing a product for free named Onkor to folks that otherwise might pay good money to a company that makes a marketed product called Encore look an awful lot like a copyright infringement lawsuit just waiting to happen?

I hope it doesn't look that way. A close look at the history of PRS1 users on this forum show a consistent plea for data from the company. Remember when the machines were first announced in 2009, and there was the first hint that the new machines wouldn't work with the original Encore Viewer? A slew of folks said "I'm not buying it until we get our software." Then folks noticed the new software didn't work with the old "dig for more data" add-ons which had been developed by others. Some of you on S9 machines have been "getting around" ResMed's blockade by finding a source of ResScan (no way of paying for it). Instead, this Mac user bought the Windows-Only Phillips Respironics EncoreViewer2 software to go with his new PRS1 as a deliberate vote of support for a company which would make an attempt to give users access. I don't have Windows, so how do I get my data? I use Onkor! Even those users with Windows machines and copies of EncoreViewer2 can now see waveform data with their PRS1 -- no clue why the company left off that feature in EncoreViewer2.

Go ahead folks -- buy from a company which has made, at least for one operating system, an attempt to give data access to the end users. And I hope the company takes a hint that there are indeed some of us (unlike many of their DME "customers") who are glad to see ways of gaining efficacy data, and really do mean it when we plea: "give us our data."

-- SleepyCPAP

This may be really a dumb question but .......Why do you need the serial number of the machine?
Vic

vic wrote:This may be really a dumb question but .......Why do you need the serial number of the machine?

It is a way of identifying files so that you can go back and look at any old files you may have stored.
It doesn't have to be the actual serial number. It can be any number that starts with P or letters as long as it starts with P. Serial numbers are unique so no chance of 2 people picking the same. If I decided to use PRETTYMACHINE and you decided to use PRETTYMACHINE then things could get mixed up. If someone is concerned about possible privacy issues getting back to the serial number, just use something else. Otherwise there is no personal information stored on the machine to make its way to the SD card.

Think of it as a file folder with all the data from your machine in that file folder. The file folder must have a name for sorting and storage.

SleepyCPAP wrote: Some of you on S9 machines have been "getting around" ResMed's blockade by finding a source of ResScan (no way of paying for it).

Here's the link to ResMed's international download site.

http://www.resmed.com/int/assets/html/s ... c=patients

It's in ResMed's survice and support for patients.
All it says is: "This product is provided for use by or under the supervision of appropriately trained Physicians. Please confirm that the downloaded software will be used in accordance with this requirement."

As someone who uses encore pro, I want to thank you for doing this. I'm not sure what your motivation is, as this is the first time I have heard about this, but regardless, its a good thing! If I had the right machine, I'd use it in a heartbeat and delete encore pro which slows my desktop down and is really, really ridiculous software (but I can't complain because well, Yar, Matey!)

Maybe you can answer this quickly for me. (No intention of hijacking the thread--please pm with with an answer if you have one). I was thinking of moving my encore pro to a small net book that my family is not using for anything else. Since a netbook doesn't have a cd rom drive I was thinking I could network it with my pc using a usb cable and then transferring the file that way. Is this possible? Forgive my ignorance. I also have a router that allows filesharing. Could it be done that way? Another option I was thinking was putting it on my external hard drive. And only running it from there when necessary. I don't know if that is possible either. I just hate it, but do need to check my numbers from time to time.

This way, I was thinking I could have the netbook right there in the bedroom and easily download my card from time to time and then wirelessly print to my wireless printer if I want a hard copy to peruse. TIA.

Jen Wells

DennisG wrote:Well I am not sure that I really understand all the details of how Onkor works, but here are the steps I used and my thoughts on how this thing works.

Thanks Dennis! You've got it perfectly. I'll be trying to make this process easier in the future.

Starlette wrote:I have a request as a user, not a programmer by any stretch. I think it's important for us to understand what we're reading if we compare apples to apples, not apples and oranges. Viewer gives me one reading and your program gives me another on AHI. I think its due to the time capturing difference. Also it would be nice somehow for me to capture data by date rather than data numbers which mean nothing to me, the date 04/19/11 means something, just a suggestion.

Excellent suggestion, and it happens to be what I'm working on now. Encore organizes sessions by date (using some time, i think noon) as a cutoff. Onkor currently organizes sessions based on when machine is turned on/off. So if you turn on the machine 3 times in the night, you'll have three different onkor reports for each time.

I'm working right now on doing this a similar way as Encore. However, I hope to be able to show nice summary monthly graphs and well as let you choose arbitrary time-spans to report. For instance, maybe you want to see how your AHI of Sunday afternoon naps compares to your nights. Or perhaps you want to compare your November AHI to your December AHI.

It requires a little restructuring of Onkor, so it will take something around a week, i think. Also, my laptop broke and I think I'll have to get a new one...

PS - I hope you don't mind me greeting you by the last part of your logon name. Don't feel comfortable by addressing you as Cpap.

I answer to dork, yes.

Slartybartfast wrote:Is it just me, or does someone providing a product for free named Onkor to folks that otherwise might pay good money to a company that makes a marketed product called Encore look an awful lot like a copyright/trademark infringement lawsuit just waiting to happen?

I don't believe EncoreViewer or Encore Pro are registered trademarks. That said, it's not my intention to confuse people by the names. I actually thought it was going to be relatively rare that a person might utter the spoken word "onkor." In emails, bulletin boards, twitter, etc, the difference between Onkor and Encore would be unmistakably clear. But maybe I'm too much a computer dork and don't have enough personal contact with anyone.

If Philips Respironics contacts me about having a problem with the name, I will absolutely listen to their concerns with an open mind.

Pugsy wrote:

vic wrote:This may be really a dumb question but .......Why do you need the serial number of the machine?

It is a way of identifying files so that you can go back and look at any old files you may have stored.
It doesn't have to be the actual serial number. It can be any number that starts with P or letters as long as it starts with P. Serial numbers are unique so no chance of 2 people picking the same. If I decided to use PRETTYMACHINE and you decided to use PRETTYMACHINE then things could get mixed up. If someone is concerned about possible privacy issues getting back to the serial number, just use something else. Otherwise there is no personal information stored on the machine to make its way to the SD card.

Think of it as a file folder with all the data from your machine in that file folder. The file folder must have a name for sorting and storage.

Thanks Pugsy, you cleared that up nicely.

cpap, If you haven't already, it looks like Rosiemoto could use some help. He/she has a weird graph.

viewtopic/t63311/Update-to-My-Data-Post ... y-ARe.html

Thank you Dennis, I have had a "fiddle" using your instructions and I seem to know what I am looking at!
What does puzzle me is that when I search the SD card and look at all the files many of the nights only seem to have 001 and 002 - there is no 005, so I can't upload the data.
Any suggestions why this would be the case?
I look at the data in ENcore Viewer and the data for each day is definitely there.
Thanks
Susan