Legal Issues

kempo · Post by **kempo** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:31 pm

BlackSpinner wrote:So are you in for fraud or a con job?

LOL, I was thinking the same thing.

BlackSpinner wrote:
The Texan wrote:To all the nasty responders on this thread, I am going to give you one line of thought I used to give every rookie I trained as an FTO. There is only difference between you and OHENRY and it is one simple thing, you haven't been caught YET.....I don't know of one member on this board who walks on water. If you can tell me with a straight face that you have never broken a law in your life, I will apologize, but after all my years in law enforcement, I don't expect to make an apology.
Bullshit - comparing a traffic violations to something that puts you in jail for over 8 years?

ETA: Also a law enforcer who is walking around assuming everyone is a criminal needs to get therapy before he blasts someone innocent off the streets.

I was a cop for 33 years but I would have never worked alongside a fellow cop who I thought would commit a felony. Plus, if I had ever made a statement like " the only difference between you officers and a convict is you haven't been caught yet" I would have lost all respect and confidence from everyone in the Department. That would have been a pretty stupid thing to say even to a group of rokkie cops that your training.

I'm very diappointed in you Texan.

Wulfman... · Post by **Wulfman...** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:16 pm

Personally, I think the snarky remarks are uncalled for. There's a fellow hosehead who is seeking help (through his wife) and I believe we should try our best to help him.......regardless of his circumstances or "lodging accommodations".

Den

kevster324 · Post by **kevster324** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:21 am

Wulfman... wrote:Personally, I think the snarky remarks are uncalled for. There's a fellow hosehead who is seeking help (through his wife) and I believe we should try our best to help him.......regardless of his circumstances or "lodging accommodations".
Well said, Wulfman!

Den

SleepingUgly · Post by **SleepingUgly** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:23 am

It took courage for him to admit that he is in prison, and he didn't have to tell us that.

danimal71 · Post by **danimal71** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:49 am

OHENRY wrote:Does any one know a good attorney that deals with Sleep Anea issues?

I think this is why all the "snarky" remarks were made. He didn't come here initially looking for CPAP help. He came here looking for a lawyer.

Right or wrong he might have made a different first impression and gotten a different first response had he not asked for a good lawyer.

I am behind our police and military but to make a statement that the only difference between a prisoner and me is that I haven't gotten caught is bullshit and ignorant.

SleepingUgly · Post by **SleepingUgly** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:12 am

I don't know why he asked for an attorney. Maybe he was trying to get someone to help him get equipment that is not being provided to him. Who knows.

While many of us have not committed crimes that are punishable by 8+ years in prison, we HAVE helped people here who have committed crimes that are. There's no doubt in mind that there are people here who have committed criminal acts, and we just don't know who they are. No doubt someone reading the forum today beat up his partner, molested a child, raped a woman, stole money, etc.

Personally I would not withhold help just because someone is in prison. To those who would, they can simply not participate in this thread.

danimal71 · Post by **danimal71** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:14 am

SleepingUgly wrote: To those who would, they can simply not participate in this thread.

I agree 100%. It alleviates the drama.

kentoboo · Post by **kentoboo** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:18 am

I believe we should try and help this guy, even though he is in prison. If I had the right answers for him, I would give them but on the other hand, I am not real fond of paying for a person's health-care because he chose to do wrong!

Drowsy Dancer · Post by **Drowsy Dancer** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:21 am

SleepingUgly wrote:I don't know why he asked for an attorney. Maybe he was trying to get someone to help him get equipment that is not being provided to him. Who knows.<snip>

Failure to provide medical care to the incarcerated is considered a violation of the Constitutional prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment. See this, e.g., for a little background without me writing a big essay: http://www.npr.org/2010/11/30/131704348 ... ercrowding The appropriate referral would be to a prison rights/civil rights organization.

Refusal to treat OSA would seem to many of us to be a punishment that is cruel and usual. The OP may have had the impression, however, that obtaining adequate treatment for OSA on the "outside" is easier than it actually is.

Drowsy Dancer

Janknitz · Post by **Janknitz** » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:14 pm

There's plenty of "jailhouse lawyers" and a law library in every prison to help prisoners deal with issues like denial of necessary medical care. There are also organizations that do this all the time and can help if his wife will reach out to them on his behalf.

I think as far as we can go here is to educate his wife on what his needs are, and then they need to work within the prison system to get him what he needs, i.e. replacement filters.

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