Fisher & Paykel ICON Auto

Just noticed the updates.. Called Genox and the person is out so I left a message. They never called me back last April after inquiring 4-5 times about the Smartstick CD. They just drop the ball all the time. You would think on a $1000 machine F&P would include the $9 CD with the machine for crissakes. What a PITA.

I hate to say it but if it has the music feature built in then insurance might not cover it. This is common in the DME world, when you buy it there is only the required features... once you get it then you can pay extra for features. They sell touch screen computers with Windows locked down that will only run communication software for severe disabilities. Once insurance covers the $4000 unit the family pays another $300 to unlock it so the patient can send email too. Stupid healthcare rules.

Hi.

I really need to read out the data of my F&P Icon Auto which is on the USB Stick.
But I cant find any software to read it :_(

Can someone help me to find it please?

Thanks in advance !!

Hi again.
I found the Infosmart Software on the internet.
[Thus I dont need help anymore.]

I have been on CPAP therapy for more than a decade, and for that entire time I have been using a REMStar Plus. In the last month my trusty machine began to show signs of age, pressure drops, burnt electrical smell, etc. I went to my ENT, and he generated a new prescription for an ICON Auto. This machine boasts a lot of fancy features not included in my trusty REMstar Plus, and I found myself looking forward to using this new machine. Here's what I've found:
1) The auto titration feature does not function properly. This machine has never ramped up the pressure to even 2/3 of my previous prescription of 9cm of H2O. As a result I have not had a good night's sleep in the two weeks that I've had the machine. The low pressure is enough to fake my body into thinking that it's OK to go to sleep, but it does not provide enough pressure to maintain my airways. I'm not sure how this machine figures out what pressure it needs to adjust to during the auto titration process. It does not use any method of measuring O2 levels in the blood (a pulse oximeter, or etc.), and that seems to leave the machine to make random educated guesses about the pressure needed to maintain an airway.
2) the SenseAwake feature is a torturous technological flop. I believe the idea is that the machine will lower the pressure when it thinks you are awake, and thereby make you more comfortable. What really happens is that the SenseAwake feature habitually misreads my sleep state, drops the pressure to the minimum allowed by my prescription, I wake up gasping for air then try to get back to sleep, and the whole process begins again. You can turn off the SenseAwake feature in the user programming, but that also seems to disable the auto titration feature of the machine.
3) The humidifier, even set at its lowest level, tends to cause water to accumulate in the hose. I'm filling the tank to less than the max fill line, but the problem persists.
4) the rear air fitting pops off the back of the machine if you look at it cross-eyed. It does pop back onto the machine with a gentle push, but simple mechanical fatigue will cause this part to permanently fail in short order. Additionally most of the rest of the case appears to be thin plastic. I doubt that it will survive a fall from my bedside table. There is no way that anyone can convince me that this machine will last me decade like my faithful REMstar plus.
5) Given the aforementioned failings this machine is very overpriced. I paid $350 for my REMstar in 2002, and given inflation over that time I'd expect a new unit to cost about $600. My CPAP vendor charged me almost $700 for the ICON Auto, and, given my current frustration level, I feel that I overpaid by almost $450. This machine is only worth about $250 USD.

Beyond these four concerns it is a very cute, very quiet, easy to use machine. I'm sure that I'd love it if the above concerns were resolved to my satisfaction.

To get the software, you can buy it from a website (PM me for the site), then must register it with you listed as a 'BUSINESS' within 30 days (this is a bit shifty). Software is $89 - F&P will not help at all with this. The software does not provide as much data as ResMed & Phillips Resperionics do, but its better than nothing.

Another (and possibly better) alternative is to just use SleepyHead. You get the same limited data, to use SH you need to get the version with the PR S1 560 patch. Found out it worked after I bought the F&P software.

Personally, I'm not an Icon fan. I have the Icon Premo, but got the PR S1 560 & am much happier with that unit.

Jen

MrJenner33 wrote:I have been on CPAP therapy for more than a decade, and for that entire time I have been using a REMStar Plus. In the last month my trusty machine began to show signs of age, pressure drops, burnt electrical smell, etc. I went to my ENT, and he generated a new prescription for an ICON Auto. This machine boasts a lot of fancy features not included in my trusty REMstar Plus, and I found myself looking forward to using this new machine. Here's what I've found:
1) The auto titration feature does not function properly. This machine has never ramped up the pressure to even 2/3 of my previous prescription of 9cm of H2O. As a result I have not had a good night's sleep in the two weeks that I've had the machine. The low pressure is enough to fake my body into thinking that it's OK to go to sleep, but it does not provide enough pressure to maintain my airways. I'm not sure how this machine figures out what pressure it needs to adjust to during the auto titration process. It does not use any method of measuring O2 levels in the blood (a pulse oximeter, or etc.), and that seems to leave the machine to make random educated guesses about the pressure needed to maintain an airway.
2) the SenseAwake feature is a torturous technological flop. I believe the idea is that the machine will lower the pressure when it thinks you are awake, and thereby make you more comfortable. What really happens is that the SenseAwake feature habitually misreads my sleep state, drops the pressure to the minimum allowed by my prescription, I wake up gasping for air then try to get back to sleep, and the whole process begins again. You can turn off the SenseAwake feature in the user programming, but that also seems to disable the auto titration feature of the machine.
3) The humidifier, even set at its lowest level, tends to cause water to accumulate in the hose. I'm filling the tank to less than the max fill line, but the problem persists.
4) the rear air fitting pops off the back of the machine if you look at it cross-eyed. It does pop back onto the machine with a gentle push, but simple mechanical fatigue will cause this part to permanently fail in short order. Additionally most of the rest of the case appears to be thin plastic. I doubt that it will survive a fall from my bedside table. There is no way that anyone can convince me that this machine will last me decade like my faithful REMstar plus.
5) Given the aforementioned failings this machine is very overpriced. I paid $350 for my REMstar in 2002, and given inflation over that time I'd expect a new unit to cost about $600. My CPAP vendor charged me almost $700 for the ICON Auto, and, given my current frustration level, I feel that I overpaid by almost $450. This machine is only worth about $250 USD.

Beyond these four concerns it is a very cute, very quiet, easy to use machine. I'm sure that I'd love it if the above concerns were resolved to my satisfaction.

If it is not functioning properly...TAKE IT BACK!