Any one heard about nasopharyngeal tube to treat OSA?

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Any one heard about nasopharyngeal tube to treat OSA?

Post by williamco » Wed May 26, 2010 11:02 pm

Any one heard about nasopharyngeal tube to treat OSA? it should keep the airway open without CPAP or even with CPAP?
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Post by Janknitz » Wed May 26, 2010 11:19 pm

No way, that sounds crazy and yucky! Have you found any legitimate, peer reviewed medical articles suggesting it?
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Post by elena88 » Wed May 26, 2010 11:40 pm

I found a study they did many years ago..
Presently appears to be used in clinical settings, and in battle field hospitals to keep unconscious patients breathing..
I think infants as well..

I have had a camera shoved up my nose and down my throat several times this year, but always had some numbing spray before that..
It didnt bother me, but I KNEW the tube was coming out of there in a minute!

I dont think I would like one shoved up my nose all night.....

cpap looks pretty good compared to that...

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Post by mars » Thu May 27, 2010 9:57 am

Hi All

Below is everything, or nearly everything, you have always wanted to know about the nasopharyngeal tube -

http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/In ... ipment.cfm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9gmY8bayZo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX2KLbt9gyM

http://www.technologieallianz.de/webtem ... 17c2d8.pdf

I have been after something like this ever since I heard that I had sleep apnea. It seems to me the obvious thing to do. And there are no travel or sleeping restrictions with it.

This is definately something worth pursuing

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Mars
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Post by guy25 » Sat May 29, 2010 10:34 pm

I don't know how well it would work to solve sleep issues, I've had it done with no numbing spray and I can't imagine going to sleep with it in, extremely uncomfortable and I was spitting up blood for a few hours after it was took out.

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Post by Mikebov » Sun May 30, 2010 2:45 pm

As an EMT, I have heard of these, but we use them in patients who have an airway compromise. I have joked about using one instead of the cpap, but I don't think it would be very comfortable.

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Post by SethW » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:53 pm

I'm a certified EMT also. Just wondering about this myself. I have no idea how uncomfortable the nasopharyngeal airways are. I imagine they're rather unpleasant. Anyway, if I had a convenient source, I might try it just to see what it was like. I don't see myself traveling with my CPAP machine when I have to fly.

Here's the link to the old study:

http://chestjournal.chestpubs.org/conte ... 2.full.pdf

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Post by ChicagoGranny » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:43 am

SethW wrote: I don't see myself traveling with my CPAP machine when I have to fly.
I don't see yourself enjoying your trip.
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Post by SethW » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:13 pm

ChicagoGranny wrote:
SethW wrote: I don't see myself traveling with my CPAP machine when I have to fly.
I don't see yourself enjoying your trip.
I personally can make it a week or two without the machine. I am more concerned about long-term health consequences of interrupted sleep night after night for 20 or 30 years. Besides, if an NG tube worked, there really is no comparison to how simple it would be to pack vs. the machine. Simplicity is good.

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Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:18 pm

If I fall asleep for as little as ten minutes without the mask, I feel like the reason dog walkers carry plastic bags.

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Post by ughwhatname » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:46 pm

I see myself waiting for the arrival of my travel machine, so when I fly in early December, I've got my new machine with me.
ChicagoGranny wrote:
SethW wrote: I don't see myself traveling with my CPAP machine when I have to fly.
I don't see yourself enjoying your trip.

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Post by ughwhatname » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:49 pm

I was really sick yesterday afternoon, in bed with chills and a fever of 103.2. I wore my mask, just in case I fell asleep. If you asked me, I would have said I didn't sleep, but Sleepyhead says differently. I had two apnea events during that time.
SethW wrote:
ChicagoGranny wrote:
SethW wrote: I don't see myself traveling with my CPAP machine when I have to fly.
I don't see yourself enjoying your trip.
I personally can make it a week or two without the machine. I am more concerned about long-term health consequences of interrupted sleep night after night for 20 or 30 years. Besides, if an NG tube worked, there really is no comparison to how simple it would be to pack vs. the machine. Simplicity is good.

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Post by archangle » Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:54 am

I think this was investigated in the past, but the difficulty of insertion, discomfort, and risk of infection probably keep it from being practical.

If someone could figure out a practical way to do this without too much patient discomfort, it would be great. Maybe something where you stick something in your mouth, partly swallow it, and it springs into place.

Someone had a folded memory wire type thing that you stuck in your mouth and sort of squeezed and released it and let it spring back, and it held back the flap at the back of your mouth somehow.

I have a hard time believing any such gadget isn't going to feel horribly uncomfortable in the airway. I'd also worry about germs.

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Post by MidnightOwl » Fri Nov 23, 2012 1:57 am

ughwhatname wrote:I was really sick yesterday afternoon, in bed with chills and a fever of 103.2. I wore my mask, just in case I fell asleep. If you asked me, I would have said I didn't sleep, but Sleepyhead says differently. I had two apnea events during that time.
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Post by sylvie » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:16 am

chunkyfrog wrote:If I fall asleep for as little as ten minutes without the mask, I feel like the reason dog walkers carry plastic bags.
Me too. I don't get that at all.
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