Do I really need Encore Pro

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Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by cotech50 » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:44 pm

I took my SD card to the RT today so she could check the data and Really did get much more information than what I had learned from the LCD display. I did not see the report she generated she called me to give me the details which pretty much matched what was on the display, I assume the software gave her graphical information. I have AHI,Large Leak, 90% Pressure and basic compliance info I thought the AHI and the pressure were the biggies. I might consider software if they ever release some version at a reasonable cost. Am I overlooking something I know there has been much discussion on the PR System One, I cannot see right now where the lack of software would be a killer for this machine?

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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by Wulfman » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:50 pm

We have no idea what changes they may have in store for the 2.1 version, but from the previous versions, "SEEING" the events and what occurred makes all the difference in the world when comparing it to summary numbers.


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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by desert rider » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:52 pm

I thought there wasn't any software for that device yet. I wonder how she read your card?

Other than that, having the software yourself lets you analyze the data at your own pace on your own time. You can view last night's details without having to wait for an appointment.

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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by roster » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:53 pm

Depends on how your therapy is going, how well you feel, and what you see in the display.

If you feel great and the display shows zero leak and zero AHI, the software won't be any help.

Sounds like the software is not going to be available for a few months, so why not continue to evaluate your therapy and worry about the software purchase decision later?
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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by cotech50 » Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:31 pm

My ahi right now is 3.0 has been as high as 3.3, 90% pressure is a 12.2 on an auto set of 7-15. Only problem I really have now is getting back to sleep once I wake after 5-6 hours.

I will probably look at obtaining software once it can be obtained but for now I really like this machine and the data I can get from the LCD is better than not knowing anything.

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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by Gerald » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:36 pm

Having the software makes all the difference in how you manage your therapy.....and, believe me, you need to manage your own therapy. Nobody will be as interested in your wellness as you will be.

Purchase the software for your machine as soon as it's available. And remember.....we can't manage what we can't measure.

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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by GumbyCT » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:42 pm

cotech50 wrote:My ahi right now is 3.0 has been as high as 3.3, 90% pressure is a 12.2 on an auto set of 7-15. Only problem I really have now is getting back to sleep once I wake after 5-6 hours.

I will probably look at obtaining software once it can be obtained but for now I really like this machine and the data I can get from the LCD is better than not knowing anything.
All that means nothing without your leak data. Leak means nothing w/o mask make & model.

Then it comes down to how do you feel?

The software is key to newbies and figuring out how the therapy is working and figuring out what & when or why. If your leaks are high and you can see the graph you can tell when it leaked and see what events were triggered. Looking at avg numbers will mask problems that's all.

If you are satisfied w/o knowing or seeing then good deal - you just saved a bunch of money...
You can ALWAYS ask your DME for a copy of the data. Make sure you get the daily details with the graphs not the summary numbers you already know.

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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by rested gal » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:10 pm

desert rider wrote:I thought there wasn't any software for that device yet. I wonder how she read your card?
No software for the PR System One machine is available to us lowly users. Encore Pro 2 software is available to the "professionals" -- DME, doctor.

Previous versions of Encore Pro (Encore Pro 1), and Encore Viewer (software for the patient) don't work with the PR System One machines.
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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by YawnGirl » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:27 pm

cotech50 wrote: Am I overlooking something I know there has been much discussion on the PR System One, I cannot see right now where the lack of software would be a killer for this machine?

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I guess it kind of depends on you and how much control you want over your therapy. If you have confidence in your doc and feel like your therapy is going great, then don't worry about it right now.
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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by 2ndGenCPAPgal » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:49 pm

Your RT/DME should be able to give you copies of the graph output if you request it. (I had to do this w/ my M series until I got the software). If it is at all like the data we see in the old viewer, it would probably be about 11-12 pages...a few pages of summary than 1 page for each "session" with detailed graphs.

The actual graphs would allow you to put the numbers you're seeing in context w/ time and each other. Right now you can't tell if the AHI is because of leaks or if it is a "true" event that the machine wasn't able to control.

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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by bailachel » Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:28 pm

I had a follow up apt. with the sleep DR. today. I asked for and received a copy of the 12 page print out they produced for the Dr. It had summary data from the time I started and then daily detail for the last week. I noticed that at the bottom it says it was printed by Encoreanywhere - version 1.9.47.0. Does that mean they were able to read the card with the old software?

Now that I am home and looking at the information, I'm wondering if they could have given me daily reports for each day if I had asked? hmmmm.

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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by GumbyCT » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:00 pm

bailachel wrote:Now that I am home and looking at the information, I'm wondering if they could have given me daily reports for each day if I had asked? hmmmm.
Yea, let us know how you make out with that, lol. After all, They are there to help, right?

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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by kbrenn » Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:24 pm

My doctor doesn't have the software to read the SD cards for the PR system one machine, but he told me he'd be interested in buying it if he knew who sells it and where it could be bought. I suppose the only company that would have it for sale would be Philips Respironics. Is that correct?

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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by Guest » Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:55 am

The provider of my equipment and disposable replacement parts is making this available to me and I should have it next week. My kit is the Respronics RemStar Pro M Series. This provider is who my doctor referred me to. You might want to check with your provider as well as I'd assume they have an 'authorized' relationship with Respironics.


kbrenn wrote:My doctor doesn't have the software to read the SD cards for the PR system one machine, but he told me he'd be interested in buying it if he knew who sells it and where it could be bought. I suppose the only company that would have it for sale would be Philips Respironics. Is that correct?

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Re: Do I really need Encore Pro

Post by LinkC » Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:35 am

bailachel wrote: I'm wondering if they could have given me daily reports for each day if I had asked? hmmmm.
Only if they have been reading your card each week (and storing the data). The card will only hold a week's worth of detailed data. Once it has that on it, each additional night you write over the earliest night. That 12-pager is everything currently on the card.

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