New Apnea Treatment Needed

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New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by roster » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:05 am

Therefore, for more than 50% - 70% of sleep apnea patients, a no-surgery and no-mask sleep apnea solution is urgently needed to successfully manage and eliminate sleep apnea.
Glad to see this this is getting discussed more often. http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show ... 8599.shtml
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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by SuperGeeky » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:26 am

Rooster, I got into a discussion with my Sleep Doctor about CPAP Therapy success rates.

He spoke only of his own patients, pointed out that most all of his 'severe OSA patients' were compliant. In other words, when you look at compliance of patients, think in terms of tiers of severity.

I've spoken with many folks who are perfectly comfortable living without CPAP therapy and some others who believe holistic methods can be used in it's place.

And, I really hate it when folks belittle the illness and the Doctors who treat it. I've found keeping it to myself helps a lot...

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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by LinkC » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:33 am

And wouldn't you know...a chiropractor in Illinois happened to develop the urgently needed solution just in the nick of time!!!

How lucky is THAT??? Whew, that was close.

Not only that, but the objective journalist who wrote this "news story" even included a link to the good Dr. Zhou's website.

(Woohoo! They are looking for "visionary investors", too!)

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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by roster » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:00 am

SuperGeeky wrote:.......He spoke only of his own patients, pointed out that most all of his 'severe OSA patients' were compliant. .....

SG,

Based on my personal experience, I would agree that, in general, most severe OSA patients are compliant.

The ones that weren't compliant are already dead.
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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by Muse-Inc » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:08 am

rooster wrote:...Based on my personal experience, I would agree that, in general, most severe OSA patients are compliant. The ones that weren't compliant are already dead.
I concur (severe here); I slept so well during my titration, I knew I needed this and would deal with whatever obstacles occurred in order to have that refreshing sleep every single night. Someone who doesn't have that dramatic experience might not be so willing to deal with the education, mask issues, equipment tweaks/replacements/logging, changes in sleep hygiene, etcetera, required to make CPAP therapy deliver its benefits.

Maybe one day the mask and blower will be seen as the dark ages of SDB treatment!
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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by sierragail » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:15 am

I'm a newbie (25 days) but already I can see that it's not worth it to talk about it with people who don't have this problem, or don't know anyone with it, a significant other, or a family member or a close friend. The one person I mentioned it to (they knew I'd been tested, so they inquired about it), commented that they just couldn't see sleeping with all that junk on their face every night, that it had to be extremely claustrophobic, and was it really worth it anyway? Oh well, I thought, lesson learned, I will keep it to myself from now on. Would someone ask you if your arthritis treatment was really worth it? Or if all that surgery on your broken leg and then lugging around a big old cast was really worth it?
* Sigh*

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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by SuperGeeky » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:20 am

sierragail, I always just start to doze off when talking with those narrow-minded folks. That usually shuts them up

Rooster, you know what you get when a OSA Patient survives strokes, heart attacks, diabetes, car accidents and obesity??

An Alzheimer Patient....

I'm so morbid, but I couldn't help it....


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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by roster » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:28 am

SuperGeeky wrote: Rooster, you know what you get when a OSA Patient survives strokes, heart attacks, diabetes, car accidents and obesity??

An Alzheimer Patient....

I'm so morbid, but I couldn't help it....


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Might as well be open about it. I remember in the sixties when someone had cancer, it was whispered about and no one spoke openly. It's time to open up the conversation about sleep apnea.
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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by sierragail » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:31 am

Hey SuperGeeky, I like your humor, mucho mucho mucho!
Hee hee hee, an ALZ patient......

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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by SuperGeeky » Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:40 am

Rooster, I'm so glad you can remember that far back

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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by roster » Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:27 pm

SuperGeeky wrote:Rooster, I'm so glad you can remember that far back

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None of my friends know I have a memory problem. I may not be able to remember the past, but I am quick to remanufacure it and deliver it in a credible tone.
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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by SuperGeeky » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:03 pm

Rooster wrote:
I am quick to remanufacure it and deliver it in a credible tone.
Re-manufacturing the past has tremendous advantages. I always end mine with 'They lived happily ever after'. Though, it may loose the credible tone, at least I'm happy. That's all that matters...


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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by roster » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:26 pm

SuperGeeky wrote:
Rooster wrote:
I am quick to remanufacure it and deliver it in a credible tone.
Re-manufacturing the past has tremendous advantages. I always end mine with 'They lived happily ever after'. Though, it may loose the credible tone, at least I'm happy. That's all that matters...


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Some time ago I spent a weekend with four close buddies. As you can imagine, we told a lot of funny stories. We noticed that we were often saying, "Now, I don't remember exactly what happened next." I proposed something which was agreed to by all. The rest of the weekend, when we could not remember details we were free to make them up as long as they made the story funnier. To this day we still do this. The only problem is when the wives are present. They keep interrupting and correcting parts of the story. But this serves no useful purpose and ruins the conversation.

Now I sometimes notice that guys retell a story and it is different from the first time I heard it. But the story is getting funnier, so that is OK all the way around.

My brother had one of the stories published in Reader's Digest and we need to get together and submit some more.
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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by sheep1234 » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:35 pm

Wow, I've only had positive reactions when I've spoken about my sleep apnea! All of a sudden, everyone knows someone who's on the hose. I've had people comment the difference in me since getting my machine, so I think most people believe that the therapy works.
My dad is now very interested in getting a sleep study done since he has ALL the symptoms of sleep apnea and he's also a heart patient, which I believe puts him at greater risk for, well, death, imo.
My mom needs cpap too but I don't see her being able to handle dealing with the machine, plus she's so leary of everything. I think she'd get freaked out when you put the mask on, but I'm still going to try and get her into a sleep study. She snores like crazy and sleeps crazy hours. (She doesn't work.) Hopefully, the tech at the sleep study can deal with her and can work through her apprehension about the mask.
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Re: New Apnea Treatment Needed

Post by roster » Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:45 pm

sheep1234 wrote:Wow, I've only had positive reactions when I've spoken about my sleep apnea! ......
You must have spoken about it at a dinner you were paying for.
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I have a vision that we will figure out an easy way to ensure that children develop wide, deep, healthy and attractive jaws and then obstructive sleep apnea becomes an obscure bit of history.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ycw4uaX ... re=related