Do all masks fit all machines?

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Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by ccualumni » Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:59 pm

I posted about getting a new mask and will be getting a new one soon.

Will all masks fit my machine and hoses? I do not know if they are universal sizes or if I am limited to certain masks.

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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by Julie » Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:23 pm

Just about all will fit all, I suppose with possible exceptions of some odd thing picked up overseas that we've never heard of, though that's pushing it because it seems like all the major companies are pretty international anyway. Certainly Respironics, Resmed, Fisher-Paykel, etc. etc. etc. are no trouble. The question really should be do all masks attach to the hoses coming from the machines? That also seems to be a 'yes', though again there may be some I'm not familiar with, but so far, so good. Now, there are machines that do adjust slightly differently to different masks, may change your read-outs by small amounts as some manufacturers have built-in ratings for different masks, they will adjust your pressure very slightly to 'fit' particular masks, but not all do that and it doesn't seem to make that much of a difference to anyone... kind of an extra perk, really.

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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by JohnBFisher » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:11 am

In general they do. HOWEVER ... (Isn't there always a "however"?) ... some masks will NOT work with some machines. For example, I understand from my DME that the ResMed Quattro (full face) mask sometimes registers as having too high a "leak" rate. It's not leaking, it's just allowing air to exit quickly / quietly. And that can cause some machines to think there are problems.

It works with my Respironics M BiPAP Auto unit, but I do note a high leak rate on it, when (per my wife), I don't have that much of a problem with the mask leaking.

So, generally, all masks work with all machines. However, if you have a good DME or resource such as CPAP.com, you might want to ask if there are known problems.

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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by LinkC » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:22 am

Julie wrote:The question really should be do all masks attach to the hoses coming from the machines?
I'd guess if you found a mask that didn't fit your hose, you could also find an adapter for it.

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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by Hawthorne » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:15 am

The only mask I know of that doesn't fit a standard cpap hose is the Respironics Comfort Curve. It attaches differently. To solve the problem, the Comfort Curve comes with it's own hose. It's slightly shorter that the standard cpap hose and has it's own unique attachment.

You can see it on cpap.com I think. I understand it may be discontinued soon. I like it and use it sometimes as a break from nasal pillows.

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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by raggedykat » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:27 am

Do you have to adjust your machine settings if you get a different mask?
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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by LinkC » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:46 am

raggedykat wrote:Do you have to adjust your machine settings if you get a different mask?
Not for good therapy purposes.

I'm no expert on ResMeds, but I understand if you set the leak rate into the machine, it will do the math and only show unintentional leakage in the charts. You do that by telling it the model of ResMed mask, or the leak rate of others. But that's only to calibrate the leakline, it has no effect on your therapy pressure.

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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by ccualumni » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:29 pm

Thanks everyone. I am going to get a new mask and wanted to know if it was going to be a problem or not.
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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by Sandy Em » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:46 am

I have purchased a ResMed Mirage Liberty Full mask (prongs and mouth) and it doesn't fit the tubing on my Phillips Respironics Remstar PRo System One CPAP machine with humidifier. Where can I obtainan "adaptor" that will fit the ends of each of these items / (it is almost the right size but won't go together)... Help please !

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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by Pugsy » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:52 am

Sandy Em wrote:I have purchased a ResMed Mirage Liberty Full mask (prongs and mouth) and it doesn't fit the tubing on my Phillips Respironics Remstar PRo System One CPAP machine with humidifier. Where can I obtainan "adaptor" that will fit the ends of each of these items / (it is almost the right size but won't go together)... Help please !
Look carefully in the packaging for a little small coupling that should have been included in the package.
It's easy to overlook.

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... dgear.html

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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by bobbalouie » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:22 pm

Definitely not. I have a ResMed CPAP machine with standard hose that does not fit a Respironics DreamWear mask. No adapters are included, looks like I just wasted a little over $100 on the DreamWear mask. I left for a business trip after picking up the new mask and now it doesn't work. VERY unhappy. The supplier will be hearing from me tomorrow and they'd better have a solution or a refund for me. Why don't these people know what they're doing?

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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by Wulfman... » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:45 pm

bobbalouie wrote:Definitely not. I have a ResMed CPAP machine with standard hose that does not fit a Respironics DreamWear mask. No adapters are included, looks like I just wasted a little over $100 on the DreamWear mask. I left for a business trip after picking up the new mask and now it doesn't work. VERY unhappy. The supplier will be hearing from me tomorrow and they'd better have a solution or a refund for me. Why don't these people know what they're doing?
And.......you didn't try it out before you left? Riiiiiiiight.........

Of course they will. All masks will work with all machines.
So, what part are you missing?

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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by robysue » Wed Nov 30, 2016 10:29 pm

bobbalouie wrote:Definitely not. I have a ResMed CPAP machine with standard hose that does not fit a Respironics DreamWear mask. No adapters are included, looks like I just wasted a little over $100 on the DreamWear mask. I left for a business trip after picking up the new mask and now it doesn't work. VERY unhappy. The supplier will be hearing from me tomorrow and they'd better have a solution or a refund for me. Why don't these people know what they're doing?
Hose couplings are standardized across all brands. The PR hoses and the Resmed hoses have exactly the same size couplings and hence the PR DreamWear mask will fit hoses for a Resmed machine.

Now according to the description for the PR DreamWear mask on our host's web site:
Elbow Connection to the Mask

The DreamWear elbow is inserted into the circular opening at the top of the DreamWear mask. The flexible mask frame material allows the user to place pressure on the frame as the lip of the elbow is placed inside the opening. The elbow connection should be completely enclosed within the opening, leaving only the outer rim visible.

Functionality Tips

The DreamWear Nasal Mask uses a quick-release swivel to allow users to easily and rapidly remove the mask from the hose when needed. To ensure the mask elbow and swivel are firmly attached for use throughout the night, listen for a clicking sound when installing. (https://www.cpap.com/productpage/pr-dre ... l#tips-tab)
I am wondering if you inserted the piece that goes onto the elbow incorrectly. This piece is called the "tubing quick release" in the user guide that should have come with your mask. If the tubing quick release part is incorrectly put onto the elbox, that would put the wrong end of the tubing quick release towards the hose coupling and that would explain why you could not get the hose to connect to the mask correctly.

If your mask is missing the tubing quick release, then your DME should provide you with the part when you inform them of the problem.

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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by Pugsy » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:56 am

The most common cause of someone not being able to attach the DreamWear mask (or really any other mask) to the long hose is not that a part is missing but instead there is a part from a prior mask still stuck in the end of the long hose that attaches to the DreamWear.

Check the end of the long hose to make sure there's nothing stuck in the end preventing connection.
Similar problem shown in this thread.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=113198&p=1091623&hi ... r#p1091623
bobbalouie wrote:Definitely not. I have a ResMed CPAP machine with standard hose that does not fit a Respironics DreamWear mask. No adapters are included, looks like I just wasted a little over $100 on the DreamWear mask. I left for a business trip after picking up the new mask and now it doesn't work. VERY unhappy. The supplier will be hearing from me tomorrow and they'd better have a solution or a refund for me. Why don't these people know what they're doing?

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Re: Do all masks fit all machines?

Post by chunkyfrog » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:40 am

A FORMER DME tried to sell me an OPENED mask.
Luckily, I looked closely at it before leaving.
The swivel connection was missing---it never would have fit ANY hose.
Naturally, I left with an ENTIRE mask.

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