Are you still using C-FLEX?

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:46 pm

Lynn,

So much you said reminded me of me. In the beginning, used Cflex and ramp. Not any more, no need. Use the Swift, but have the Activa in case...I had a break in the tube one night and used Activa for a replacement until I fixed it the next day. Your pressure is 9, mine 10. I am thinking about the Comfort Curve, too...a lot of similarities.

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:47 pm

BTW last night with Activa, straight CPAP at 13, C-Flex at 3, my AHI was 1.0!!
Neversleeps,

WAY TO GO!!! Keep it up, please???

Do you feel any change today in your condition, more energy or anything at all? What are your usual AHI's?

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Post by UKnowWhatInSeattle » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:49 pm

Nope, I don't use C-Flex. I'm only at a pressure of 8 and I found that on my Remstar/Pro, the C-Flex noise was driving me nuts (a short drive, mind you). I had the DME turn it off, since, of course, we're not to change any settings ourselves...

... and I still use my ramp after a year and a half. Am I a girly-man?

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Post by lynn » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:55 pm

Lori -

I noticed that about you, too. Lots of similarities! See, I lurk and read all your stuff! So who's gonna jump on the Comfort Curve first - you or me!? We have appt at doc this Thursday for 6-mo. followup. Will see what he says and then maybe go from there. May have an opportunity to try one out at the local DME since it's time to have insurance cover a new mask after 6 mo......
Will let you know.

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Post by yawn » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:59 pm

I started on CPAP in July. My machine was set up with c-flex and it never occurred to me to turn it off. "If it ain't broke....don't fix it".
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Post by neversleeps » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:06 pm

Sleepless on LI wrote:Do you feel any change today in your condition, more energy or anything at all? What are your usual AHI's?
My AHI fluctuates. Lowest ever was .08 and highest (once I finished titration experiments) has been 6.8. I am very, very lucky to have such a low AHI. Nothing to complain about!

Nope, I don't feel any difference the following day whether I'm at a .08 or a 6.8, but if I take a nap without it, boy can I feel it!
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Post by elliejose » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:11 pm

I still use mine set to 3 also. I probably could do without it now that I have an auto. I don't have nearly as much trouble exhaling as I did at straight 14 pressure. I have tried 3 and 2 settings and like the 3 (most relief) best. When I used straight cpap, I did have some trouble with the stacking but none at all that I have noticed on the auto . If I do when the pressure is higher I am asleep most of the time and don't notice it. I have noticed that my pressure sometimes is at 16.5 when I awaken. So I guess it does go up higher than 14 at times and I am thankful to finally have the auto. I sleep much better and am not nearly so restless as with straight Cpap. I can't wait until everything gets here and I am able to check progress with software. Then I can experiment with settings and see what works best for me.

Even tho I have been on cpap since March, I still don't have that really rested feeling. I can see improvement tho and wouldn't stop it for the world.


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Post by dsm » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:14 pm

I started out with CFLEX initialy at 3 then dropped to 2.

I thought it was great feature and a wonderful way to get used to xPAP. In the first couple of weeks I had minor chest pains (took this to be getting used to breathing out against 15 cm seting).

Over time vared the CFLEX up and down while tying to cope with a range of
mouth leak and mask problems. In the end most problems went away when I switched CFLEX off.

My wife provides me with a lot of feedback on what she observes. She feels that I was far less restless when CFLEX was off.

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UPDATED: One thing I haven't tried too much is CFLEX & AUTO. My problem with AUTO is that my wife gets annoyed when ever I activate it as she says she gets woken by me snoring mildly (cms set 13-17) and the machine hunting up & done & disturbing her. This morning she all but insisted I go back to CPAP 15

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:14 pm

Neversleeps,

I'm glad that you feel great regardless .
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Post by HappyHoser » Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:12 pm

Interesting cross section of results! I'm usually running around 8 to 9cm and turned it off cause I just didn't seem to need it. I do think it's a usefull feature particulary at those higher pressures. No question it would help new users adapt in many cases. An aircraft could land on the roof and I wouldn't notice so funny noises are not a personal issue although c-flex does sound a little Darth Vaderish.


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Post by rested gal » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:30 pm

C-Flex...hmmmm...

Do I need it? No.

Do I like it? Yes.

At the pressure my autopap usually uses (9, 10, 11) I can exhale fine. I do, however, like the extra comfort of exhaling against less pressure.

I used to keep C-Flex set at 3 for maximum reduction of pressure. For the past several months I've had it on 2. No particular reason for changing it, just wanted to see how 2 felt and never bothered to change back. Either way works equally well for me.

I do understand, though, how C-flex can be disconcerting to some. The first night I thought it was malfunctioning. The "bump" of more pressure coming back in before I had quite finished inhaling made me think, "Gee, this isn't right...something must be wrong with the machine." It was that noticeable...the feeling of being kicked to inhale again before I was ready.

It does make you feel like you need to breathe faster, the way WillSucceed describes. But you can never beat C-Flex to the punch. Finally I asked someone about that, and he explained that was the way C-Flex was supposed to work...bringing the pressure back in before the exhalation was finished.

Once I was reassured that the machine wasn't faulty, I relaxed, let C-Flex do its magic and didn't try to make my breathing keep up with it. It became very easy to get used to -- for me. I can certainly understand how some people would always have the feeling C-Flex was fighting them and could never get used to it or breathe well with it.

I was fine with it from then on and really liked the pressure relief for exhaling.

Even though I don't need it.


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Post by Sleepless on LI » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:39 pm

Well, with that explanation, maybe some day I'll try it again, like I did with the auto setting, and like it this time. It felt uncomfortable for me, the stacked breaths and all. Thanks, RG.

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Post by SnoreNoMore2005 » Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:46 pm

I've been using C-flex since July. I started at a setting of 3 when I thought I needed higher CPAP pressure and was just aclimating myself to the CPAP.

Now that I'm using a lower Autopap pressure 90% = 9cm, I have my C-flex set at 1. One day I plan on turning it off to see what registers differently on my software, but for now the 1 setting seems comfortable to me.

I knew I was getting comfortable with my mask the night I woke up and couldn't remember if I had put my mask on. I had to reach up and touch my face to assure myself my mask was on.

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Post by cat-a-tonic » Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:21 pm

I think the C-Flex has helped me get use to my CPAP. Although at 9cm, I am not on a high pressure. After my 30 day trial period is up and I have met with the sleep doctor, I will probably experiment a little with both the Ramp and C-Flex.

Besides the ComfortGel, I have the Comfort Select. I was fortunate to have a great sleep tech who gave me a mask after my triation test so I would have a second mask. During my triation I used the the ComfortClassic (which left a dent in my forehead and was very uncomfortable). The sleep tech suspected the doctor would order me the ComfortClassic and not give me a choice. Fortunately, I was able to choose, so I went with the Comfort Select. I was only given the option of one of those 3 anyway! I've used the Comfort Select the last few nights, so I will switch masks tonight to see if there is a change in the leaks (end up with air blowing in my eye - which usually wakes me) .

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Post by Sleepless on LI » Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:04 am

Cat,

You sound low, like me, and 10 for me doesn't necessitate a ramp OR Cflex. You may be the same. But if it makes you comfortable, that's the key.

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