A CPAP that will work on long haul flights...

Davidwnc · Post by **Davidwnc** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:21 pm

Guest wrote:Cathay Pacific has been around awhile. It may not survive if passengers are constantly plugging their laptops into the CP's AC and blowing their computers. Then again, you are lucky enough to be using the cheapest CPAP in the known world. Purchase a second unit and ship it to your destination. Worst case, if CP doesn't destroy your CPAP you have a back-up unit,

Cathay Pacific is constantly rated as one of the top airlines – so hopefully it will continue to survive!
As for blowing their computers – that’s not likely. Electronics deal with 400 Hz with very few problems…it’s motors that have problems dealing with it (I’ve not even given a second thought about whether or not the netbook will be ok with it – I know it will..)
If it was just a question of purchasing a second unit, I would just take the battery and be done with it – but I want to spare the space and weight….

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:41 pm

Davidwnc wrote:
Guest wrote: Cathay Pacific is constantly rated as one of the top airlines. Electronics deal with 400 Hz with very few problems…it’s motors that have problems dealing with it.

So you have a couple of choices. 1) Switch carriers because CP definitely won't be one of your top rated airlines if it blows your CPAP. or, 2) Take solace that maybe you not be the first person on CP to ever use CPAP and there is an outside chance your CPAP may survive the flight.

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Davidwnc · Post by **Davidwnc** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:28 pm

Hmmm…two tickets with a value of £7500 were free (frequent flyer miles) – it’s cheaper to replace the machines than the tickets…I’ll stick with Cathay but thanks for the suggestion…

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:18 pm

Davidwnc wrote:Hmmm…two tickets with a value of £7500 were free (frequent flyer miles) – it’s cheaper to replace the machines than the tickets…I’ll stick with Cathay but thanks for the suggestion…

Smart, you can buy a boat load of your CPAP machines for the value of your tickets.

As I see it you have only two concerns: 1) How pretty are CP's flight attendants, and 2) What will other passengers think of the eerie BLUE LIGHT from your CPAP machine when the cabin lights are off?

Let us know the date you arrive in Australia so we can tune in for the outcome of your saga.

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Davidwnc · Post by **Davidwnc** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:27 pm

Guest wrote:Let us know the date you arrive in Australia so we can tune in for the outcome of your saga.

Well, we leave Heathrow Friday evening the 22nd of January, and arrive in Melbourne Sunday afternoon - so you can see, there is going to be plenty of time to use the CPAP at cruising altitude!

billbolton · Post by **billbolton** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 7:43 pm

has approved some Respironics kit as suitable for 115V/400Hz operation on their aircraft.....

See .... http://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/fly ... diform.pdf..... you need to go a fair way through the document to get to the approved equipment list.

Cheers,

Bill

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 12:19 am

billbolton wrote:Qantas has approved some Respironics kit as suitable for 115V/400Hz operation on their aircraft.....

Well, there you go! The only thing I would suggest is pass on is filling out the mediform. In the real world, the flight crew probably does not need or care about that much information. There job is to get you there and not harass passengers in high priced seats. If you are sucking on O2 or sporting an O2 generator, that is one thing, but you are simply running a fan. You might carry your script if any unlikely question arises inflight. Plug-in, cover the blue light. and nod out. The relevant point is you may want to crank up the pressure support in your CPAP to account for the mile-high to 8,000 foot atmosphere in the cabin. My BiPAP Auto SV probably provides the proper support at any atmosphere.

Heck, I'll be back from my next trip to Vietnam on EVA before you depart.

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Hose_Head · Post by **Hose_Head** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:49 am

Davidwnc wrote:Hi,

I have been using CPAP for about 15 years, but in January my partner and I will be flying to Australia on Cathay Pacific. They have outlets at their Business Class seats that give 115 volts but 400 Hz. I have no problem with the 115 volts, it is the 400 Hz that gives me pause. We each use a REMstar Plus M series which is for 100 – 240 VAC, 50/60 Hz. I am afraid the 400 Hz will fry the machines. The seats don't have a DC outlet - if they did we could just use our cigarette lighter attachements. I don't want to haul 2 big transformers around for 3.5 weeks just so we can use our CPAPs on the flights there and back. I have tried emailing the company to ask them if the machines would be ok - but have gotten no response - and I can't find a number for them on website (they do a good job of trying to force you into emailing them.) So I had 2 questions:
1. Does anyone know what using 115 VAC with 400 Hz would do to our machines (they say they are for 100-240 V 50 / 60 Hz.)
2. Does anyone know which machines would accept 400 Hz?

Many thanks for your help.

I've read this thread with interest, and I'm sorry I don't have an answer for you. However, I am interested to know what is your final decision on this, and if that decision is to use the aircraft's power outlets for your cpap, what is your experience with it.

When you get back, please let us know how you made out! Others can benefit from your experience!

Thanks!

Davidwnc · Post by **Davidwnc** » Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:22 am

Thanks for the list of what Qantas accepts, I had to read the list about 3 times before I saw that the REMstar M Series was on there (it is stuck at the bottom of one of the boxes and I kept glancing over it...) That really sets my mind at ease! I'm also a member of frequent traveller forum (http://www.flyertalk.com) and I have asked to see if anyone on there has had any experience with this airline and model of CPAP, but based on what I know now I will probably use it. I'll let you know if I get any additional information, what my final decision is, and the outcome is. Thanks for your help!

dtsm · Post by **dtsm** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:19 am

billbolton wrote:
Davidwnc wrote:1. Does anyone know what using 115 VAC with 400 Hz would do to our machines (they say they are for 100-240 V 50 / 60 Hz.)
Why don't you ask Respironics, they are in the best position to give you a definitive asnwer?

Thanks for your tip - I found this thread: what a title

Back to your suggestion, I in fact did call Resmed and they sent me a letter for the S8 AutoElite II - unfortunately it says 'not yet FAA compliant'! But their unit will work at 115V 400H, which is the CX power configuration.

CPAP_Pilot · Post by **CPAP_Pilot** » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:52 am

Guest wrote:
bearded_two wrote: Does anybody know if there are any problems with dead power outlets on these seats?
My only issue was turning on the machine before the captain had switched on the APU. Generally, the APU is switched on during climb-out or at altitude.

This person has it all backwards. APU is used to provide power and bleed air to the Environmental Control System packs in the ABSENCE of electrical power and bleed air from the engines. Airplane is plugged into ground power at the gate. APU is started. Ground Power is disconnected and airplane is pushed out of gate while on APU. Engines are started, APU shut off. Sometimes APU will be left on for takeoff on a hot day when the energy removed from the engine by bleed extraction to run ECS packs is needed to counter the decreased hot day performance of the engine. Even then APU will be shut down before reaching cruising altitude. APU stays off until after landing when it is switched on, until the airplane has arrived at the gate, shut down engines and is connected to ground power. Even then APU may be left running to provide bleed air to the ECS packs (ground power alone, does not give you air for air conditioning).

Aviator1970 · Post by **Aviator1970** » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:40 pm

Hello Guys,
There is a medical power outlet in airplane and you can use this outlet if you request that seat.Seat number varies by airplane type.It supply 115VAC 60Hz and 12VDC.So, you can use either AC or DC or both.If you are flying with Boeing 777,for economy class 25AB,for B/C 1JK seats have those outlets on overhead of your seat.In seat Power outlets will not supply enough power and they are 400Hz.On the other hand,when you chose the seats with medical outlet you should inform the crew because Pilots have to turn on Medical Power Switch to ON,otherwise you will not be supplied.
Sincereley

sburke91 · Post by **sburke91** » Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:10 pm

If you can afford it, the best option is a Resmed AirMini with a 24v battery pack. I've used multiple xPAP's on long haul flights, and compared to all of them, the 'mini is utopia--the unit's small, the battery pack is relatively small/light, and all connections/ports (including the air intake) are on one side of the unit, so you can tuck it into a seatback in coach or a convenient slot/pouch in first/business.

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