UPDATE: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

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UPDATE: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

Post by socalmonkey » Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:56 pm

NEW - From the Philips Respironics web site:

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http://www.respironics.com/

So maybe they are finally going to promote the new PR System One machines! That would be my guess.
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Re: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

Post by TheDreamer » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:05 pm

Clicking on the More takes you to: http://www.1013at1013.com/

Where it does sound like the are talking about the PR System Auto...or something like it....

And, I was hoping they were going to announce EncoreViewer 2.0

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Re: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

Post by socalmonkey » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:29 pm

Dreamer... I think your right. It didn't occur to me to click on it. Those are the PR System One features. So this looks like the official roll out!

But too bad this is all worded for the provider... and not the patient!

"WHAT IF WE TOLD YOU WE'RE NOT BUYING IT UNTIL THERE IS A PATIENT VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE ?"

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Re: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

Post by socalmonkey » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:13 am

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Re: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

Post by araminta » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:21 am

any guesses at to the significance of the # 10.13, and why they'd use it as a "hook" in the ad campaign?

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Post by Muffy » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:36 am

Probably just cuz they're "unveiling" it at Medtrade, which opens 10.13.

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Re: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

Post by SeaPappy » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:08 pm

araminta wrote:any guesses at to the significance of the # 10.13, and why they'd use it as a "hook" in the ad campaign?

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Post by deerhound » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:48 pm

10/13 is my 1 year anniversary on BiPAP. Respironics is just celebrating my new life!

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Re: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

Post by araminta » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:07 pm

yo muffy,
what's Medtrade?

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Re: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

Post by Uncle_Bob » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:16 pm

Mmm i wonder what's going on. The PR System One machines are already launched aren't they?

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Post by Pugsy » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:27 pm

araminta wrote:what's Medtrade?
http://www.medtrade.com/


Big annual convention for HME (Home Medical Equipment) suppliers and the such. I am guessing that some DME's will go there or the big execs with the big DME's. Probably part of the "overhead" that justifies the DME charging so much...

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Re: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

Post by no_more_headaches » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:27 pm

Uncle_Bob wrote:Mmm i wonder what's going on. The PR System One machines are already launched aren't they?
Marketing usually does not happen on the day they ship for a lot of companies. They want to get the channels full and have a proper event to get visibility.
They only recently added the low end systems to the channel and as we know the software is behind.

Doctors aren't going to prescribe a completely new model which requires new hardware and software out of the box so they will need to create lots of marketing material as to why you should do it.
Sort of like Windows 7 vs XP. Many people will say XP does the job just as well why spend the money. My doctor has to cut expenses by 10% so there office may not have much desire to support something entirely new.

So they have to market and from what I have seen so far I haven't been persuaded. They have a nicer form factor. Their humidifier is improved but its capacity is less than the resmed and the rainout solution defeats the heated hose some people have.
I guess once we see the software will be the real answer. If it shows lots more interesting data and can store huge amounts of detail and reads the card much faster that could be a real win.

I would love to see a wireless connection to transfer data seamlessly to a doctors office by network or my local computer but their probably very afraid of that.

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Re: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

Post by Muffy » Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:19 am

Well, it appears that an upgraded lab version is on the list as well ("Omnilab Advanced").

Ms. Cheeryface says:

Since Omnilab has all modes, a huge development may be in the works if the open airway technology is added to the ASV algorithm. If so, then the algorithm would allow the EPAP to float as well, as it could now differentiate central from obstructive events. EPAP could be raised during obstructive apneas and held during central events. While it could not identify mixed apneas, that would be academic. If an obstructive component were present (as long as it's an apnea and not a hypopnea), the response would be appropriate, namely, raising the EPAP.

Ms. Cynical says:

While anticipation of new technology is exciting, don't forget what happened with the Hybrid.

Ms. Cheeryface says:

This may also force ResMed to put in a central apnea identification component as well, which would seem to be FOT.

Ms. Cynical says:

If the actual identification of central apneas was all that important (as opposed to controlling machine response)(which, when you think about it, may be a more practical approach), then why doesn't everybody own a GK420E, which is pretty good at doing that already?

Ms. Cheeryface says:

Listen you moron, while GK420E may be quite specific at identifying CAs, it's not all that sensitive.

Ms. Cynical says:

Yeah, well maybe if I punch you in the face, your nose will be sensitive.

Ms. Cheeryface says:

Oh yeah?

Ms. Cynical says:

Yeah!!

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Re: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

Post by carbonman » Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:45 am

socalmonkey wrote: But too bad this is all worded for the provider... and not the patient!
"WHAT IF WE TOLD YOU WE'RE NOT BUYING IT UNTIL THERE IS A PATIENT VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE ?"
As long as patients keep purchasing these w/no software,
the less chance there is that software will be made available to "your patients".

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Re: THE FUTURE OF SLEEP THERAPY

Post by datguyyouallhate » Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:59 pm

I doubt you will see the software available to the public. They don't want the public changing their pressures and self medicating. This is why ResMed doesn't sell their CPAP's to alot of websites either. They want the DME's to have a role in people's health. They want the DME's to start doing their jobs better, and to have people stop guessing at what they should do and have a reliable source for information. I've talked to both companies reps, and they hate the idea of people trying to "self medicate" their pressures. Not my words, its theirs. So if you want to go on a rant, make sure you don't aim it at me. I am just telling you what I was told.