New S8 Auto with H/H announced at cpap.com

dsm · Post by **dsm** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:10 pm

For those that haven't seen the new S8 auto here is cpap.com's link

https://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed ... p-h3i.html

Looks interesting. Delivery slated for 14 Sept.

Will take a look at the side by side photos (assuming Johnny has done them).

DSM

cornpop16 · Post by **cornpop16** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:05 am

Do you know any info on how the S8 vantage compaires to the S7 elite? About to buy my first cpap and trying to decide which one to get!

john5757 · Post by **john5757** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:10 am

Is this interresting looks like that as compared to the Spirit that the humidifier can be set warmer since the specifications shows quite a bit of temperature range and possibility a exhale pressure reduction.

WillSucceed · Post by **WillSucceed** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:10 am

You should be aware that some interface devices with narrow tubes, such as the Nasal Aire or the Breeze with Nasal Pillows, may have an impact on the ability of this and other auto CPAPs to accurately respond to airflow restrictions during use.

This quotation is from the https://www.cpap.com link that is shown above in the first post. I think that this quotation is somewhat lacking in completeness. Although it says "may have an impact on the ability of this and other auto CPAPs" CPAP.COM knows (from the PB documentation and PB website) that the Breeze is fully compatible with the PB 420E auto CPAP.

Lots of new users / those purchasing their first flow generator are unlikely to know that the Breeze and 420E are fully compatible and the quotation above does nothing to ensure that they get complete information. I think that the above quotation, as it is posted on the CPAP.COM site should include more information than this general "may have an impact..." statement. It should include factual information that CPAP.COM knows is contrary to their quotation.

The quotation should have wording added to it along the lines of: "The exception to this is use of the Breeze with the PB 420E auto CPAP as this interface and flow generator are fully compatible with no negative impact upon the 420E auto CPAP's ability to respond to airflow restrictions during use."

Now you can all yell at me for being picky but, I think that folks new to OSA treatment need to get complete information that helps them to make informed choices. The quotation, as it is currently written, is a 'bad news' message. CPAP.COM should include 'good news' when ever they can. I hope that the Goodman powers-that-be see this post and make the appropriate change.

Let the yelling and bashing begin...

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 7:51 am

No yelling and bashing from me. I agree with you. Might deter some who use those interfaces from considering it.

capt · Post by **capt** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:22 am

WS, I do not think you are being picky at all. As you know I use an AutoSpirit that has the same warning. When I checked my AutoSpirit's data, I can tell you that a Breeze and AutoSpirit is not a match made in heaven for me. Actually I did not have to check the software data. All the noise being generated from the Breeze's pillows, the AutoSpirit itself and excessive pressure build up in my nasal area which made it difficult for me to breathe all let me know something was not right.

I had originally thought it was the wrong size pillows, and some other adjustments that had to be made. I did have a few nights that things were very good, but I could never get up to three straight nights without a problem. I think it is due the wide range of my required treatment pressures (9-16.5).

From the pictures and having seen the S8 cpap itself in person. I think with the humidifier attached, that its size will be very close to that of an AutoSpirit.

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Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:03 am

Capt:
You can tell your Spirit which mask you are using so as to improve treatment. Given that the ResMed Swift uses a narrow tube like the Breeze, you might try setting your Spirit to the Swift setting -I think you will get better treatment.

I wish I could remember which setting you use for Swift -the Swift manual that comes with the Swift has this information in it. I'm at work and can try to check this for you tonight when I get home. Alternatively, you could contact ResMed and ask them which setting you use for Swift.

WillSucceed · Post by **WillSucceed** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:04 am

Sorry Capt:

That last post was me -got 'guested' again.

john5757 · Post by **john5757** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:32 am

The one time I had problems with a narrow hose interface was with the comfort lite which is one of the narrowest . The auto shut off will not work since the machine did not see a large leak. The pressure graph was thicker than usual since the volume intake at the pillow level with was causing some pressure drops. I am not saying that a problem but just a thought.

JudyAnn · Post by **JudyAnn** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:34 pm

Does anyone know what software is used for this new machine. I have the people at CPAP Medicare checking into it as I want this machine but I want to be able to see how I am doing.

I am presently using the ResMed Auto Respond which tells me nothing. The original DME would not give me the Auto Spirit and I did not know any better back then to question him.

It says its 4.6" high x 6.5" wide x 5.7" deep. That seems a lot smaller than the one I have now.

Thanks,
Judy

capt · Post by **capt** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:39 pm

JudyAnn, it uses the ResMed autoscan 5.6 software. The S8 looks like a sawed off AutoSpirit or Respond. It appeared to be the same height and width, just about 40% shorter in length. It has the standard ResMed carrying handle, and it was light in weight. Unless it has some performance or treatment functions that I am not aware of, I cannot see anything that would make it that much better or easier to travel with than my AutoSpirit.

capt · Post by **capt** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:43 pm

WS, for some reason my machine does not have the Swift listed as a mask choice. I have tried using the various mask settings with no joy!

JudyAnn · Post by **JudyAnn** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:43 pm

Oh I agree that if it does the same thing then why even bother. The problem is that they never gave me the "Spirit". They gave me the Respond and that does not tell me a thing.

I want a machine that lets me know how I am doing and if I need to change anything or not. I want to take charge of my own SA and see how I am doing and my Pulmonologist agrees with me. (Hooray!)

Thanks for letting me know what software it takes.
Judy

JudyAnn · Post by **JudyAnn** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:47 pm

Capt.....

I was told to use the "Mirage" setting for the Swift (which I have but don't use now because its noisy). I am back to using my Activa.

Judy

capt · Post by **capt** » Tue Sep 06, 2005 4:31 pm

Thanks for the information Judy. I too am back with my Activa.

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