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OT: Vitamins 'undo exercise efforts' (Insulin sensitivity)

Post by roster » Tue May 26, 2009 7:42 am

Taking vitamins after exercise may undo some of the beneficial effects of the workout, research suggests.

Some advocate taking antioxidants like vitamin C and E to help protect the body from harmful chemical by-products it creates in breaking into a sweat.

But German scientists now believe these "free radicals" may actually be good for us and even buffer against diabetes, PNAS reports.

And mopping them up with antioxidants may do more harm than good.



It is thought that antioxidant vitamins may be able to prevent damage to the body's tissues called "oxidative stress" by eliminating the free radicals which are said to cause it.

This damage has been implicated in several major diseases including cancer and heart disease as well as normal ageing.

But Dr Michael Ristow, of the University of Jena, and his team have shown free radicals may have a positive effect on the body by increasing its sensitivity to insulin - something that is lost in type 2 diabetes.

And this effect is blocked by antioxidant vitamins.

Too much of a good thing

Men who took vitamin C and E supplements showed no changes in their free radical levels, whereas those who did not take these antioxidants showed increased levels of free radical oxidative stress.

After four weeks of intensive exercise training, insulin sensitivity was restored only in the group of men who did not take antioxidant supplements.

The men who took the vitamin supplements fared worse, metabolically.

Dr Sarah Aldred, a lecturer in exercise biochemistry at the School of Sport and Exercise Sciences at the University of Birmingham, said: "It doesn't mean that antioxidants like vitamin C and vitamin E are bad for us, it just means that sometimes we need to consider whether taking supplements is actually beneficial.

"As this study shows it is not actually always the case."

Dr Elisabeth Weichselbaum of the British Nutrition Foundation said: "Antioxidants protect the cells in your body from damage and therefore help to reduce the risk of certain diseases such as cancer.

"But you should not consume high doses on a regular basis as this can have negative effects on your body.

"If you stick to a healthy and varied diet, you generally get enough of the nutrients you need and you don't run the risk of consuming large amounts that may be harmful for you."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8043456.stm
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Re: OT: Vitamins 'undo exercise efforts' (Insulin sensitivity)

Post by Kiralynx » Tue May 26, 2009 8:16 am

Mmmm... and the Germans are the ones who want to make it impossible for anyone to get vitamins without a prescription. Makes sense they'd want to discredit them.

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Re: OT: Vitamins 'undo exercise efforts' (Insulin sensitivity)

Post by Raj » Tue May 26, 2009 2:18 pm

BBC news has a nasty habit of leaving off most of the information one would need to assess the reliability of their stories. How big was the study? What exercise levels were involved? Where can we read the source material? Et very much cetera. You can judge the quality of their reporting by reading the mini article on that same page dramatically titled, "Anti-oxidents 'cannot slow aging.' " After the resounding conclusion reported in the headline, you'll find that the experiments were conducted on nematodes. Nematodes! Tiny little worms. Leaving aside the fact that humans often react differently than other animals to many internal and external biological elements, can we have a show of hands of people who believe that nematodes have a short lifespan due to long-term accumulated oxidative damage? Anyone? Who the heck funded THAT research?
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Re: OT: Vitamins 'undo exercise efforts' (Insulin sensitivity)

Post by Woody3 » Tue May 26, 2009 4:24 pm

Roster, thanks for that article. I have seen a couple of other articles that sort of relate to that. One article reports that
people who use the antioxident A or E experience a shorter life span. Then another one reported that 200mcg of selenium
another antioxident taken daily raises your chance of developing type 2 diabetes the longer you take it the higher the risk.

How can I include those web addresses without typing them in?

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Re: OT: Vitamins 'undo exercise efforts' (Insulin sensitivity)

Post by roster » Tue May 26, 2009 4:36 pm

Woody3 wrote:Roster, thanks for that article. I have seen a couple of other articles that sort of relate to that. One article reports that
people who use the antioxident A or E experience a shorter life span. Then another one reported that 200mcg of selenium
another antioxident taken daily raises your chance of developing type 2 diabetes the longer you take it the higher the risk.

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