Activa v Swift Statistics

ozij · Post by **ozij** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:26 am

snork1 wrote:If I had to pick just one interface to only use the rest of my life though....well I'd probably give up CPAP and drop dead prematurely

I love that! Great way of making your point.

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Janelle · Post by **Janelle** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:55 am

Don't forget when comparing your nightly numbers that the software generally interprets leaks as Apneas and/or Central Apneas. Or at least the SilverLining does.

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:58 am

Snork 1,

Thanks for making my morning cheerful. Your post made me laugh. You are quite the comic writer.

Thanks for your input. It just ****'s when you like one type of interface yet it doesn't give you the best numbers or causes leaks, and the one you don't like is better for you, etc. This whole thing can get you down if you let it, but I, so far, won't let it. I think it's 99% attitude when you're on this ride, and you really can't get off it unless something miraculous happens. I am, though, still waiting and hoping for that miracle.

Have a great day.

PS: Aren't you glad you don't have a pony tail anymore? That would really get in the way of the headgear...

WAFlowers · Post by **WAFlowers** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:31 am

Sleepless on LI wrote:I did try to just push it back on, but it didn't work. Then I tried the medical paper tape and it still sprung leaks on me.

Next time use duct tape. Rule #3: duct tape fixes anything !

Sleepless on LI · Post by **Sleepless on LI** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:34 am

Next time use duct tape. Rule #3: duct tape fixes anything!

As per UFO13/Steve's advice, I used crazy/super glue and it worked beautifully. Worked all night w/out a leak.

BTW, this site is the best. I had ordered the new tube assembly from them and called to cancel it once I saw the glue worked. I spoke with them today and they had already processed the order, but arranged a cancellation. And they did it with nothing but courteousness and friendliness. That is why I love to buy from them.

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WAFlowers · Post by **WAFlowers** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:37 am

GoodKnight wrote:Kermit,

What a great analysis!

Indeed!

I never thought of using Breathe-Rite strips inside a nasal mask. I wonder if that would work.

I can't see any reason why not so long as they didn't interfere with the seal.

If you are able to flair your nostrils (I can't, but not everyone can) try that and see if you can breathe easier some night when you have the mask on. I know that it works for me (so Breathe-Rite strips would help) but I've also figured out that the Swift inflates my nostrils removing the need.

It's no wonder that the Swift works so much better for me than a traditional nasal mask!

WAFlowers · Post by **WAFlowers** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:39 am

Sleepless on LI wrote:I am grasping here. I can't explain, though, why the Activa never, and still doesn't, cause mouth breathing or those bursts of air that come flying out of my lips and the Swift does every single night I use it. How can that be explained?

OK, I'll try grasping at something.

Maybe it is your brain, sensing something on your face (the Activa) keeping your mouth shut so it doesn't get in there. The Swift has so much less facial contact that it doesn't trigger that reflex.

Like I said, grasping. Also known as a WAG -- Wild-A**-Guess .

WAFlowers · Post by **WAFlowers** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:44 am

Sleepless on LI wrote:I wouldn't worry about the power. How often do you end up with a power failure that lasts more than a few hours? It's rare around here; I know that.

Around here it happens everytime a hurricane blows through. And last year that was, what, 3 or 4 times? This is not to mention the frequent thunderstorms that knock out power a few times each year.

P.S. Instead of reading cpaptalk this weekend I spent the time with my wife. Now I have a lot of reading to catch up on. All y'all were chatty this weekend !

WAFlowers · Post by **WAFlowers** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:48 am

Kermit wrote:Sleepless, you are too kind. Smart, not terribly, I am not even in your league when it comes to intelligence, trust me.

There's more than one kind of smart and IQ doesn't measure them all. If you can gain insights into what is going on then you've got some smarts working for you. If you share them here then you are also kind and generous.

Don't sell yourself short!

WAFlowers · Post by **WAFlowers** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:55 am

snork1 wrote:I run the hose up and with any of them I figure the hose flipping is just something to adapt to and it eventually comes to be second nature like flipping a pony tail out of the way. (Hey, I had one back in the early 70's!)

Off topic: I love a woman, any age, with a pony tail. Any time I see a pony tail bouncing and waving my head turns to follow. If it is a guy sporting one, I turn away in dissapointment . You know where my orientation is !

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:06 am

Janelle, you got me curious about something you said...

Don't forget when comparing your nightly numbers that the software generally interprets leaks as Apneas and/or Central Apneas. Or at least the SilverLining does.

Curious enough that I dug back through my data files from when I used the 420E and Silverlining software for almost a year. I was able to find quite a few of my old "leaky" reports back when I was experimenting using nothing to control mouth air leaks.. some with jagged leak lines going to the top of the graph.

On even the most massive leak reports, there were most often no events of any kind corresponding with the leak itself - neither apnea, hypopnea, flow limitation, nor "Ca" (Silverlining's term for probable Centrals.) Even the more moderate to high leaks showed no real correlation on my data with events.

The pressure would go up dealing with big leaks, but nothing I saw on my Silverlining data indicated that the machine (or the software) was generally interpreting leaks as any kind of apneic event at all. At least not for me. I suppose it could be different for someone else. I don't know if a generalization about that, one way or another, would hold for everyone.

Janelle · Post by **Janelle** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:31 pm

Strange. I'll have to go back to the data on my first 420 and see if it shows that on that one. It certainly does on my second one. Everytime I have huge leaks, like taking the mask off and thinking I'd turned off the APAP but didn't, and when I was fiddling with a nasal pillow that wouldn't stay put, I showed massive apneas lasting up to an hour at a time, with huge leaks the entire time. I don't think this was happening when I was asleep. And I've tried straight CPAP the last two nights and it is very noticeable on them. LOTS of Apneas and almost an equal amount of CAs.

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:47 pm

Very strange indeed. Can you post a picture of one of those sessions?

Janelle · Post by **Janelle** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:36 pm

I went back and looked at old files. Some of the pressure spikes (not long leaks) did correspond with apneas and some didn't. Both machines. I'm going to try another night on CPAP, but changing the pressure from 9 to 10, and I'm using the old headgear and making sure it doesn't leak before I go to bed.

For those considering using a cap for you Swift, I do have to tell you it doesn't keep the barrel away from your upper lip the way the headgear does (that's what the stiffening stuff in those side straps is for.), it will rest on your upper lip, but I haven't had a problem with a seal until the last few nights. Maybe in this case I shouldn't have messed with a well-designed piece of equipment (well, except for the tendency to make Swoosh marks for whatever reason.

RG, how do you make a picture file of a session?

rested gal · Post by **rested gal** » Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:51 pm

Janelle, I started a new topic to answer your question: "RG, how do you make a picture file of a session?"

Aug 15, 2005 subject: Taking a picture (screenshot) of overnight data

Hope that helps.