Please help, CPAP problems 5 months in

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BlueSky72
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Re: Please help, CPAP problems 5 months in

Post by BlueSky72 » Wed May 06, 2009 8:12 pm

eudofair wrote:Hi,

Yes, I've noticed problems with the Mirage Quatro FF with higher pressure. I've the Respironics Mstar CPAP Auto with Cflex. I found the setup sheet on the Internet and set the machine, temporarily, to just CPAP at 15 Cm H2o with no ramp, fit the mask at that pressure! Then set the machine back to it's CPAP Auto setting with 15 Cm max and a Cflex of 2. It is somewhat tight and uncomfortable, but it didn't leak for 4 nights in a row! The fifth night it leaked like a bandit, squealing like a tribe of Banshees. I found that an undiagnosed problem with flesh swelling and getting hard as wood and then loosing the tone, becoming flabby was also affecting my face and the tape measure length around my head where the head gear goes. It was varying over an inch and a half. Sometimes getting tighter at night, some times getting looser. Once it gets looser, the softer silicone layer gets inverted, that is the curve curves to the outside rather than inside under higher pressure. No amount of tightening makes it stop. Turning the machine off and readjusting the mask would work if it came on blowing at 15 Cm, but it doesn't, so, when it revs up to high pressure again, it leaks and screams again. In fact, my first Quatro, a small size, actually blew up like a balloon and exploded, tearing the silicone all the way up the piece over my nose. I'm using a medium one now and have myself trained to wake up and shut down before the leak screaming gets too bad. Also, I've noticed, that some of the rev up seems to be caused by bedclothes being up over the exhaust, in fact I'm sure of it after last night as I was breathing well, but pulled up the sheet over the exhaust and held it, sure enough, it reved up again. Does anyone else have this last problem? What can I do about it? I sleep in a cool room with the head of the bed by a window, so, the bedding comes up by habit.
I tried another FF mask by Sleepnet, the Mojo, and it worked a while but failed due to the fit changing with my face swelling.
Thanks, Eudofair
Hi Eudofair
Thanks for the info - do you know what the swelling condition is called? I'd like to ask my doctor about that some time. I hang the hose down over my torso, on top of the bedclothes, so that I can't feel it pulling to the side directly from my face. I know some people routinely sleep with the exhaust under the covers, but I would worry about getting rid of enough CO2 that way. Is it possible for you to move your bedhead away from the windows? Good luck, Bluesky

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Re: Please help, CPAP problems 5 months in

Post by -SWS » Wed May 06, 2009 9:13 pm

BlueSky72 wrote:
-SWS wrote: I'd recommend first attempting to optimize CPAP treatment the way you are. If for some reason things don't seem right after that, then I'd suggest revisiting whether central dysregulation perhaps plays a more prominent if not episodic role. Good luck!
Thanks for your help, SWS. The centrals were about 8.0p/h in my sleep study, all clustered at the start and end of the night. They are medication-induced, so I've always assumed they are fairly constant from night to night (as the medication does is always the same). I had a 3-night home oximetry study as well, to see if taking minimal or increased meds on different nights made a difference. Sure enough, the best night was the one with minimal meds. What is central dysregulation?
Hello, BlueSky. Central dysregulation is the overall set or phenotype, with central apneas, central hypopneas, and periodic breathing each being subsets. Central dysregulation can extend beyond those three---essentially any end-result of central nervous system dyscontrol would qualify. So that qualifies various cardiovascular issues as well.

But usually, our CPAP and apnea related conversations tend to focus on those first three respiratory presentations of central dysregulation: apneas, hypopneas, and periodic breathing.

As it turns out, the central apneas and periodic breathing are easy to routinely differentiate during a PSG. But IMHO the central hypopneas often go undifferentiated---and are often simply assumed to be obstructive. There are central hypopnea differentiation techniques, but I question the measurement sensitivity for that differentiation criteria. Anyway, I'm thinking that when I wrote that, I probably switched from the "central apnea" terminology to using that overall "central dysregulation" term, hoping that you would not assume an increased hypopnea index was necessarily obstructive closure versus yet more "central dysregulation".

Again, welcome to this board, BlueSky.

BlueSky72
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Re: Please help, CPAP problems 5 months in

Post by BlueSky72 » Fri May 08, 2009 2:53 pm

Thanks for explaining that, SWS. I'll keep it in mind for when I want to look at the centrals more closely. For now, I'm not sure whether the centrals are reducing or what... but I know if I collect enough data the picture will become clearer.

Overall, I'm feeling a lot better than I was a week ago. I sorted out my bed, which was sagging too much, started a new asthma inhaler, and turned the humidifier up from 1 to 2, because of the cooler weather (southern hemisphere winter). I had not realised how much of an impact asthma was having.

Thanks everyone for your advice and suggestions, it really does help.

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