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Re: I have a couple questions for you guys that track data

Post by jnk » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:57 am

carbonman wrote:
jnk wrote:(I don't mean to pick on nobody. )
There is trickery going on here.

Odysseus used this same trickery when he was imprisoned by
Polyphemus, the cyclops.
He told him his name was Nobody, then when he shoved a stake
in his one eye, Polyphemus cried out, "Nobody is hurting me!"

When his cyclops buddies heard him yelling, they thought he
was crazy and didn't come to help.

Nobody is concerned w/grammar or typos,
why should we be concerned??
I hope you don't see through ALL my tricks!!!

(Note to self: Time for a new gameplan; carbonman is on to me!)

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Re: I have a couple questions for you guys that track data

Post by DreamStalker » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:57 am

Mike@TibroMedical wrote:.... snip ...

Example: friday 4:00 I get a call pt's M series is flashing and beeping. he tells me that theres a arrow and a box on the screen in the corner that he's never seen(his SC was pushed in to far I am sure you guys know that) I asked him to simply pull the card out 1/4 of an inch and it would stop flashing and beeping. REALLY simple fix. He refused screamed at me about how he needs someone out to his house before he goes to bed tonight or he could die then his family would be my new boss...
Your own damn fault for not EDUCATING them in the first place that they needed to manage their treatment.
Mike@TibroMedical wrote:... snip ... but I am not going to come on here and blow sunshine up your ass and try and sound all Professional to you whats the point?
Yep, we already know that
President-pretender, J. Biden, said "the DNC has built the largest voter fraud organization in US history". Too bad they didn’t build the smartest voter fraud organization and got caught.

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Re: I have a couple questions for you guys that track data

Post by Guest » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:58 am

Yardbird--I like your Shakespeare. Methinks young Mike is enamored of himself.

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Re: I have a couple questions for you guys that track data

Post by jnk » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:00 am

DreamStalker wrote:What about Australian english? ... lot them blokes runnin bout this place.

How about we just allow Shakespeare english as the forum standard? ... that way "nobody" will be taken seriously.

To be, or not to be a nobody: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The fatigue and death of outrageous apnea,
Or to take arms against a sea of DMEs,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That air is deprived, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be breathe'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the hose;
For in that sleep of aflex what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal breath,
Must give us pause: there's the cpap
That makes health of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of RTs,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised pressure changes, the law's they say,
The insolence of white coats and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy requests,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare machine? what data would be bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary therapy,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd forum from whose advice
No reader fails, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of them all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents are turned awry,
And lose the name of action. - Soft you now!
The fair members! and Johnny, in thy orisons
Be all my posts remember'd.
Now THAT'S a play I'd pay to see!

Several belly-laughs. Thanks, DreamStalker!

Now if we could just get a thousand monkeys with typewriters . . .

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Re: I have a couple questions for you guys that track data

Post by Mike@TibroMedical » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:09 am

DoriC wrote:
Mike@TibroMedical wrote: Awesome! I am starting to think that due to my patient base being all old people that this is why I've never run into pt's that are eager to learn. We have a much younger generation on this site, all of which are comfortable with using a computer. LOL my grandparents hate their computer, they only use it when they HAVE to.
Excuse Me Young Man!! You just lost points with me! My husband and I are both active and involved seniors and although we are not computer geeks by any means, we do use our computer daily for all sorts of business and pleasure, and were very "eager" to learn how to adapt to cpap therapy. In fact, I found this forum before we even received the DX or equipment. I now try to pay back here in whatever small way I can. We live in a 55+ adult community, pop.1500,avg age is 65-85, and almost everyone I know has a computer, some have laptops as well so they're not fighting over who gets to use it. BTW, our teenage granddaughters(see photo) would never refer to us or anyone else as "old people who don't want to learn". They know differently and have better manners than that. Apology accepted!
If you feel the need to take offense to something that wasn't ment to be offensive, that's your right. know it was nothing more then me assuming that was you in the picture. It actually made me think of a boy I set up 2 weeks ago 14 and he's on a bi-pap.

the bull eye's fell off my shirt anyone see where it went?

nevermind found it!
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Re: I have a couple questions for you guys that track data

Post by nobody » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:21 am

jnk wrote:
Some of the best posts I've read on this forum have been in broken English. Ain't none of us speaks this language rightly nohow anyways.
Except that I, and most here, are not claiming to have some special knowledge and to sell our DME companies to the people here. And besides, that was a typo Also, a typo or two can be overlooked, but consistent sloppiness when you are trying to sell your business and your knowledge really makes it hard to take that seriously. Maybe you don't think so, but I do.

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Re: I have a couple questions for you guys that track data

Post by Mike@TibroMedical » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:24 am

there should be warning for DME people joining this forum LOL

*WARNING* YOU RISK BEING GRILLED ALIVE AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT FOR ANY REASON. Some example's: Bad grammar
Defending the action's of anyone other then the patient
typing the above sentence and expecting people to have a sense of humor
using the word "old"
Evil DME guy with bad Grammer

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Re: I have a couple questions for you guys that track data

Post by nobody » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:27 am

Mike@TibroMedical wrote:there should be warning for DME people joining this forum LOL
Same goes for sleep lab techs, RTs, sleep doctors/nurses... pretty much anyone involved in sleep medicine.

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Re: I have a couple questions for you guys that track data

Post by DoriC » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:33 am

In what way is referring to "old people who are not eager to learn" not offensive?? I bet Carbonman, jnk, Dreamstalker can explain it in a way that you might or then again, might not understand! Guess what, I'm done with this, it's a lovely spring day and we're going outside to start our gardening. It's hard work but it keeps us young and beautiful!

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Re: I have a couple questions for you guys that track data

Post by jnk » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:38 am

nobody wrote:
jnk wrote:
Some of the best posts I've read on this forum have been in broken English. Ain't none of us speaks this language rightly nohow anyways.
Except that I, and most here, are not claiming to have some special knowledge and to sell our DME companies to the people here. And besides, that was a typo
All very true. Agreed.

Thanks for going easy on me for picking on you; it was just too good to pass up.

And I hope all spelling-challenged newbies and all foreign-language speakers understand that they are welcome and encouraged to post here.

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Post by nobody » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:46 am

Of course everyone is welcome, even annoying DME employees! I'm certainly not the king of spelling and grammar myself, just think people trying to sell something ought to have a higher standard. Yes, of course everyone is welcome. It is about getting the best CPAP therapy, this forum is a great help!!
jnk wrote:
nobody wrote:
jnk wrote:
Some of the best posts I've read on this forum have been in broken English. Ain't none of us speaks this language rightly nohow anyways.
Except that I, and most here, are not claiming to have some special knowledge and to sell our DME companies to the people here. And besides, that was a typo
All very true. Agreed.

Thanks for going easy on me for picking on you; it was just too good to pass up.

And I hope all spelling-challenged newbies and all foreign-language speakers understand that they are welcome and encouraged to post here.

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Post by DreamStalker » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:49 am

nobody wrote:
jnk wrote:
Some of the best posts I've read on this forum have been in broken English. Ain't none of us speaks this language rightly nohow anyways.
Except that I, and most here, are not claiming to have some special knowledge and to sell our DME companies to the people here. And besides, that was a typo Also, a typo or two can be overlooked, but consistent sloppiness when you are trying to sell your business and your knowledge really makes it hard to take that seriously. Maybe you don't think so, but I do.
I begun to think your just to seriously and may be you don think so, but I does.
President-pretender, J. Biden, said "the DNC has built the largest voter fraud organization in US history". Too bad they didn’t build the smartest voter fraud organization and got caught.

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Re: I have a couple questions for you guys that track data

Post by jnk » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:57 am

DoriC wrote:In what way is referring to "old people who are not eager to learn" not offensive?? I bet Carbonman, jnk, Dreamstalker can explain it in a way that you might or then again, might not understand! Guess what, I'm done with this, it's a lovely spring day and we're going outside to start our gardening. It's hard work but it keeps us young and beautiful!
Mike,

You are unintentionally (I hope) stepping on some toes with your comments, but please understand that you are very welcome here. It is only that it naturally ruffles some feathers when someone comes to the forum and proclaims expert status and starts throwing generalizations around that touch on people's lives here in a very real way, however well-intentioned your thoughts.

Please understand too, that a number of professionals post here, but they respect the diversity of backgrounds, ages, and PAP-therapy experience. You may note that some members, for example, have been here for several years. I have learned much from them because of their long years of experience reading hundreds, if not thousands, of posts from others about masks, data, etc. They are experts in their own right, and have experience you could learn a lot from. I'm glad you recognize that fact.

I respect that you came to this forum and expressed curiosity about what we were talking about. That shows modesty. You said you had a couple of questions. And then you started participating and trying to add your input based on your experience. That is appreciated. But the ringer you are going through is not BECAUSE you are a DME employee. It is because you are making very broad statements of opinion, which you are welcome to do, but which will be challenged despite your view of how experienced you are with all things CPAP related.

You seem like a really nice guy who genuinely wants to help. As a friendly suggestion, I would suggest you try not to say anything to embarrass yourself as you start out learning here. Just play it low key for a few days. That seems, from my short time being here (10 months) to be the problem with what usually happens when DME people stop by here to post. They find that we don't all sit down peacefully at their feet to learn from them to drink in everything they say, then they keep talking about how experienced they are and why we should all listen to them more closely, but then they start to figure out what a vast knowledge-base this forum actually represents, and it scares them away. They prefer being the big fish in the pond of their clients instead of being a smaller fish here where there are hundreds of amazingly informed CPAP users who have been learning this stuff for years, some decades, and who tend to see through smoke and mirrors rather quickly.

I hope you hear that in the spirit intended. Because my point is that you may learn from how you are stepping on toes, but you are still very, very welcome here, if you maintain a thick enough skin to find where and how you can use your experience and opinions to do the most good in this particular forum as you continue to learn, like the rest of us.

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Post by DreamStalker » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:08 am

jnk wrote:
DoriC wrote:In what way is referring to "old people who are not eager to learn" not offensive?? I bet Carbonman, jnk, Dreamstalker can explain it in a way that you might or then again, might not understand! Guess what, I'm done with this, it's a lovely spring day and we're going outside to start our gardening. It's hard work but it keeps us young and beautiful!
Mike,

You are unintentionally (I hope) stepping on some toes with your comments, but please understand that you are very welcome here. It is only that it naturally ruffles some feathers when someone comes to the forum and proclaims expert status and starts throwing generalizations around that touch on people's lives here in a very real way, however well-intentioned your thoughts.

Please understand too, that a number of professionals post here, but they respect the diversity of backgrounds, ages, and PAP-therapy experience. You may note that some members, for example, have been here for several years. I have learned much from them because of their long years of experience reading hundreds, if not thousands, of posts from others about masks, data, etc. They are experts in their own right, and have experience you could learn a lot from. I'm glad you recognize that fact.

I respect that you came to this forum and expressed curiosity about what we were talking about. That shows modesty. You said you had a couple of questions. And then you started participating and trying to add your input based on your experience. That is appreciated. But the ringer you are going through is not BECAUSE you are a DME employee. It is because you are making very broad statements of opinion, which you are welcome to do, but which will be challenged despite your view of how experienced you are with all things CPAP related.

You seem like a really nice guy who genuinely wants to help. As a friendly suggestion, I would suggest you try not to say anything to embarrass yourself as you start out learning here. Just play it low key for a few days. That seems, from my short time being here (10 months) to be the problem with what usually happens when DME people stop by here to post. They find that we don't all sit down peacefully at their feet to learn from them to drink in everything they say, then they keep talking about how experienced they are and why we should all listen to them more closely, but then they start to figure out what a vast knowledge-base this forum actually represents, and it scares them away. They prefer being the big fish in the pond of their clients instead of being a smaller fish here where there are hundreds of amazingly informed CPAP users who have been learning this stuff for years, some decades, and who tend to see through smoke and mirrors rather quickly.

I hope you hear that in the spirit intended. Because my point is that you may learn from how you are stepping on toes, but you are still very, very welcome here, if you maintain a thick enough skin to find where and how you can use your experience and opinions to do the most good in this particular forum as you continue to learn, like the rest of us.

jeff
Now THAT is a play I would like to see

"Seriously" though, like Velbor's previous post, well said.
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Post by JeffH » Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:50 pm

You're pretty tough, Mike. I had a tech from Lincare crying on the phone one time. I was even able to tell her that what I had to say wasn't what should have made her cry, it was the crappy service her employer was putting out that should be the real cause of her tears.

This is a group that tends to not put up with a lot of BS..LOL

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