Last night my humidifier decided to blow cold air on me (I have the Snuggle Hose). I stuck my hose in a couple of different positions but nothing seemed to work. When I got up this morning I noticed that I was out of water! Did this make my air cold? (I thought that the water had little to nothing to do with heat). Could anything else have made the air cold?
Thanks!
Grace
cold hose air
cold hose air
Not your stereotypical xpap user! 5 feet tall, healthy weight, female, and 23. I've had OSA undiagnosed at least since high school.
In addition to OSA, I also order up random food I don't like while I'm asleep.
In addition to OSA, I also order up random food I don't like while I'm asleep.
Re: cold hose air
You have to have the water. The heater raises the humidity in the air which carries the heat.
Re: cold hose air
When you take a trip with your car, you make sure you have enough gas to take you to your destination. You will have to get in the habit of topping of your HH tank every evening before bed. Yup no water no heated water vapor. Didn't your nose get cold?
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Haha, my bad. I thought I heard somewhere that the actual water doesn't make a difference in the heat factor. My nose was VERY cold!
Not your stereotypical xpap user! 5 feet tall, healthy weight, female, and 23. I've had OSA undiagnosed at least since high school.
In addition to OSA, I also order up random food I don't like while I'm asleep.
In addition to OSA, I also order up random food I don't like while I'm asleep.
Re: cold hose air
"Classic Tanks", like the one you show, usually don't run low on water unless you are mouthbreathing, you use a FF mask so that shouldn't be a problem. The HH isn't made to be a air heater, it heats the water enough for more moisture to be picked up. running the HH without water isn't a fire hazard but it is unwise and it need the water to keep it's temp controlled. "the "M"eries, has more of a problem lasting the night. But you have to refill all them every night. Jim
If you want the air heated more use the Aussie hose.
If you want the air heated more use the Aussie hose.
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Goofproof, yeah you are right about the HH not being an air heater it is a humidifier. However, Idisagree with you. The water vapor is warmer than the ambient air in your room. Active heating of water is produces water more vapor than passive humidification. If I fall asleep without the humidifier being on, I wake will awake in the middle of the night with a cold nose. The humidifier does warm the air.Goofproof wrote:"Classic Tanks", like the one you show, usually don't run low on water unless you are mouthbreathing, you use a FF mask so that shouldn't be a problem. The HH isn't made to be a air heater, it heats the water enough for more moisture to be picked up. running the HH without water isn't a fire hazard but it is unwise and it need the water to keep it's temp controlled. "the "M"eries, has more of a problem lasting the night. But you have to refill all them every night. Jim
If you want the air heated more use the Aussie hose.
I actually have a classic tank and it has run dry after being filled to the max, because the ambient air was very dry and the air was able to "absorb" or pickup all the water vapor that was available. This doesn't happen often but is not uncommon. Forced air heating in a climate that often can get to -30 celsius or -22 F with low humidity.
My old grade school was heated with steam heat - the only difference is that it was a closed system.
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Re: cold hose air
The HH does all heat to the water, but it's max temp is 145 degrees, the moisture being picked up by the air passing through the HH cools the water down some by evaporation the net gain even from the XPAP unit isn't more than a couple of degrees over room temp. The point of using HH air flow, the added moisture is closer to our bodies airways normal moisture, and it helps to keep out airways from drying out.Fredman wrote: Goofproof, yeah you are right about the HH not being an air heater it is a humidifier. However, Idisagree with you. The water vapor is warmer than the ambient air in your room. Active heating of water is produces water more vapor than passive humidification. If I fall asleep without the humidifier being on, I wake will awake in the middle of the night with a cold nose. The humidifier does warm the air.
I actually have a classic tank and it has run dry after being filled to the max, because the ambient air was very dry and the air was able to "absorb" or pickup all the water vapor that was available. This doesn't happen often but is not uncommon. Forced air heating in a climate that often can get to -30 celsius or -22 F with low humidity.
My old grade school was heated with steam heat - the only difference is that it was a closed system.
Without using a HH, the extra air XPAP provides, drys our airway out, and in the process the evaporation of the water in our airways, and makes our skin cooler. The same reason why a damp rag feels cooler in front of a fan. (Swamp Cooler Effect)
As far as the Old Steam Heat in Schools, The system wasn't totally a closed system, moisture was added to the room by a automatic valve mounted to the radiator End, it's what gave the room that steam smell, and sometimes it spit water. Ah!, Steam heat and Coal Heat, those days the Real Heat! Jim
Firing the furnace, banking it at night, cleaning the ashes and clunkers out! Life was Good, but we didn't know it!
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"The art of medicine consists in amusing the patient while nature cures the disease." Voltaire
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Re: cold hose air
Thanks Jim, that is true ...but man I sure need that HH on in winter if not for the sense that it feels warmer. It must be the like your swamp cooler analogy that it feels warmer. Anyways good to know.
Gee I forgot about the smell with the radiators. I also put that to the wet mitts drying out on the rads! They sure klunked, and hissed didn't they. I was going to grade school in the late 1960's and these were still widely used in the old schools, I am so glad to have experienced them. Just like I remember my uncle using a slide rule when he was in grade 9 and was in grade two...and thinking boy I can't wait to use one of those...by time I got to high school the slide rules were gone and the basic led calculators were just coming out.
Those were the days
Gee I forgot about the smell with the radiators. I also put that to the wet mitts drying out on the rads! They sure klunked, and hissed didn't they. I was going to grade school in the late 1960's and these were still widely used in the old schools, I am so glad to have experienced them. Just like I remember my uncle using a slide rule when he was in grade 9 and was in grade two...and thinking boy I can't wait to use one of those...by time I got to high school the slide rules were gone and the basic led calculators were just coming out.
Those were the days
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