I'm with Den and SFGal.....
Those charts are so much BS put out by insurance companies so they can charge you more money for coverage based on "their" determination you're not healthy (someone else could use the same statistics to make exactly the opposite point).....Just like they make medical decisions instead of allowing doctors perform that task.....
If I was at the top end of "normal" with a BMI of 24 I'd be anorexic.....My BMI by the chart is 31. I played football at a BMI of 29 on this chart.....Hike up the pants because it's already too late for the shoes and socks......
I admit to carrying a bit of extra poundage (I've lost 30 and have 30 more to go), but I'm in halfway decent shape despite not exercising formally -- farm aerobics....you can't cut large trees, buck them up, haul them up a hill into a truck then split and stack it all and not be in some semblance of reasonable condition...... (Confucious say: "Man who split wood by hand, warmed by it twice!!" ) At 58 (almost 59) I keep trying to tell myself I'm getting to old for this stuff, but when I actually think about it, I enjoy the task - I've been doing it since I was in my 20's.
I also buck 120lb-140lb bales of horse feed into the barn and depending on how I feel I'll stack 'em 4 high......
Charts are good for killing trees (when printed), but not much else......
Just my $.02 again......
cheers
goose
Being overweight and the use of CPAP
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Re: Being overweight and the use of CPAP
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Re: Being overweight and the use of CPAP
Indeed, they don't. After all, Marilyn Monroe was not FAT. But she was a Size 14 -- and today, size 14 is considered fat.Wulfman wrote:Absolutely!Kiralynx wrote:And that is one of the places where BMI, Body Mass Index, falls down. It does not take into account people who are stocky or who are otherwise well-muscled. <snip>
Another thing the "charts" don't take into consideration is "bone structure" (or mass). At a weight of about 210 (I'm 6' 1"), I would be (and have been) "skin and bones". Well, that was about 25 years and quite a few pounds ago, but I don't consider myself "obese". I have very low cholesterol numbers but I know much thinner people who have HIGH cholesterol numbers.
These stupid charts were invented for insurance and medical categorizations and they don't give a complete picture of a person's health.
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Mask: TAP PAP Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Improved Stability Mouthpiece |
Additional Comments: Sleepyhead software, not listed. Currently using Dreamstation ASV, not listed |
-- Kiralynx
Beastie, 2008-10-28. NEW Beastie, PRS1 960, 2014-05-14. NEWER Beastie, Dream Station ASV, 2017-10-17. PadaCheek Hosecover. Homemade Brandy Keg Chin Support. TapPap Mask.
Min PS = 4, Max PS = 8
Epap Range = 6 - 7.5
Beastie, 2008-10-28. NEW Beastie, PRS1 960, 2014-05-14. NEWER Beastie, Dream Station ASV, 2017-10-17. PadaCheek Hosecover. Homemade Brandy Keg Chin Support. TapPap Mask.
Min PS = 4, Max PS = 8
Epap Range = 6 - 7.5
Re: Being overweight and the use of CPAP
Yes, Marilyn wore a size 14...unfortunately, a 14 then is not the same as a 14 now.Kiralynx wrote:Indeed, they don't. After all, Marilyn Monroe was not FAT. But she was a Size 14 -- and today, size 14 is considered fat.
That's because size standards for both women and men have changed over the decades. For example, a woman who wears a size 8 now would have worn a size 12 or 14 in 1940. Marilyn Monroe would likely have worn a size 6 or 8 in today's sizes. These links provide some background info on the issue:
http://reviews.ebay.com/Taking-the-Myst ... 0001392879
http://www.justsaywhen.com/Vintage-101-Sizing.htm
http://www.dressthatman.com/pages/x_sizing.htm
I started out at today's size 22 and I'll be happy to get back down into today's size 14's...one size to go, so I'm almost there!
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Mask: FlexiFit HC432 Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Additional Comments: This is my current equipment set up |
Previous equipment:
Machine: Respironics M series Auto with A-Flex
Humidifier: Respironics M series Heated Humidifier
Software: Encore Viewer
Machine: Respironics M series Auto with A-Flex
Humidifier: Respironics M series Heated Humidifier
Software: Encore Viewer
Re: Being overweight and the use of CPAP
Ah. <g> I started out not fitting into much of anything, and am now down to a 22. I'm about half the size I was when I started.CorgiGirl wrote:I started out at today's size 22 and I'll be happy to get back down into today's size 14's...one size to go, so I'm almost there!
Even so, I know that my mom, whose size hasn't changed in 40+ years, still wears a 8-10... go figure.
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Mask: TAP PAP Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Improved Stability Mouthpiece |
Additional Comments: Sleepyhead software, not listed. Currently using Dreamstation ASV, not listed |
-- Kiralynx
Beastie, 2008-10-28. NEW Beastie, PRS1 960, 2014-05-14. NEWER Beastie, Dream Station ASV, 2017-10-17. PadaCheek Hosecover. Homemade Brandy Keg Chin Support. TapPap Mask.
Min PS = 4, Max PS = 8
Epap Range = 6 - 7.5
Beastie, 2008-10-28. NEW Beastie, PRS1 960, 2014-05-14. NEWER Beastie, Dream Station ASV, 2017-10-17. PadaCheek Hosecover. Homemade Brandy Keg Chin Support. TapPap Mask.
Min PS = 4, Max PS = 8
Epap Range = 6 - 7.5
Re: Being overweight and the use of CPAP
That's wonderful, Kiralynx! You go, girl!Kiralynx wrote:Ah. <g> I started out not fitting into much of anything, and am now down to a 22. I'm about half the size I was when I started.
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Mask: FlexiFit HC432 Full Face CPAP Mask with Headgear |
Additional Comments: This is my current equipment set up |
Previous equipment:
Machine: Respironics M series Auto with A-Flex
Humidifier: Respironics M series Heated Humidifier
Software: Encore Viewer
Machine: Respironics M series Auto with A-Flex
Humidifier: Respironics M series Heated Humidifier
Software: Encore Viewer
Re: Being overweight and the use of CPAP
It's taken seven years, but I've lost 180 pounds. Just wish it wouldn't take another 7 years to lose the rest. I'm decidedly not feeling Bibilical when it comes to 7 years labor and all that, as regards weight loss!CorgiGirl wrote:That's wonderful, Kiralynx! You go, girl!Kiralynx wrote:Ah. <g> I started out not fitting into much of anything, and am now down to a 22. I'm about half the size I was when I started.
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Mask: TAP PAP Nasal Pillow CPAP Mask with Improved Stability Mouthpiece |
Additional Comments: Sleepyhead software, not listed. Currently using Dreamstation ASV, not listed |
-- Kiralynx
Beastie, 2008-10-28. NEW Beastie, PRS1 960, 2014-05-14. NEWER Beastie, Dream Station ASV, 2017-10-17. PadaCheek Hosecover. Homemade Brandy Keg Chin Support. TapPap Mask.
Min PS = 4, Max PS = 8
Epap Range = 6 - 7.5
Beastie, 2008-10-28. NEW Beastie, PRS1 960, 2014-05-14. NEWER Beastie, Dream Station ASV, 2017-10-17. PadaCheek Hosecover. Homemade Brandy Keg Chin Support. TapPap Mask.
Min PS = 4, Max PS = 8
Epap Range = 6 - 7.5