Chinese resmed?

Fredman wrote:I am sorry but I am not one of those that are happy with that countries products - yet....

Remember the melamine contaminated Pet food issue that killed so many of our Pets, are we going to trust that the plastic and materials used are safe for our use...can they pass all consumer product safety tests that the US, Canada, Australian and UK have to put medical devices on the market?

Until they can do that and maintain consumer confidence...I ain't buying and won't consider.

I find this comment disturbing. I too remember this incident and haven't forgotten the peanut products incident in the USA (and that's not the only one). Truth be told you are exposed to and use hundreds of products manufactured in China. Many of which are as good as or better than those made elsewhere. There are good and bad manufacturers everywhere even with the greatest of standards and regulators. We have a number of options. Stick with the manufacturers we know and limit yourself to what they offer and the prices the sell at. Or do your own research and cautiously explore other options. You may not have noticed that the following brands are not of the USA:

ResMed - Australian.
Fisher & Paykel - New Zealand.
The Probasics Zzz-PAP by PMI - This is actually an APEX CPAP - Taipei (with factories in China).
Cardinal Health PureSom series CPAP - This is actually an APEX CPAP - Taipei (with factories in China).

Added to this the fact that many brands use Chinese made components or have their products (in part of full) manufactured in China or re-label Chinese made products.

I have no doubt with the advent of the purchase of Respironics by Phillips and the fact that they are concentrating more on the website sale rather than there flesh and blood distributors that these products too may soon be manufactured in China.

Food for thought.

Apple makes most of all their goodies in China via a Taiwan manufacturer company. I could add a few more, eg Walmart has their biggest buying office located in Shenzhen - got a few good friends working there. The largest solar manufacturing company just set up their R&D facilities in China.And all the very reasonably priced CMS oximeters that we rave about on this forum are Made in China. The nasal pillows from ResMed are from where? Yep, China!


Let's stick with stuff that we know best and put the politics aside. IMHO


OT: And Philips Respironics are now going to invest in 100+ sleep centers in India - hmmmmm, wonder why? For all their call center workers....LOL?

dtsm wrote:Apple makes most of all their goodies in China via a Taiwan manufacturer company. I could add a few more, eg Walmart has their biggest buying office located in Shenzhen - got a few good friends working there. The largest solar manufacturing company just set up their R&D facilities in China.And all the very reasonably priced CMS oximeters that we rave about on this forum are Made in China. The nasal pillows from ResMed are from where? Yep, China!


Let's stick with stuff that we know best and put the politics aside. IMHO


OT: And Philips Respironics are now going to invest in 100+ sleep centers in India - hmmmmm, wonder why? For all their call center workers....LOL?

I realize that western nations have quality issues too as rightfully pointed out. However, there are mechanisms like recalls, consumer protection laws, worker protection laws, and a judicial system that prosecutes illegal and negligent manufacturers (Yes it isn't perfect admittedly but company "officials" generally don't disappear in the night to be found that they have "done themselves in" over these issues).

Knockoff iPads
http://topnews.net.nz/content/23527-app ... cing-china

Cadmium in Disney children's jewelry:
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?secti ... id=7211481

Hmmm...article speaks of iPad knockoffs in the Chinese marketplace before Apple has introduced it there. Lost profits for Apple...but don't worry the story says, the original is better! Gee the Chinese consumer wasn't protected. By extension who is protecting us and ensuring our CPAP units are made from the right plastics no pthalates, or other dangerous chemicals were used to manufacture the products we use. I hope no one gets a knockoff CPAP!

I get we are in a global economy and that manufacturing and service centers make their way to the lowest priced human resource filled countries, but at what point can you empty manufacturing from the western nations. What will be left? What expertise in manufacturing will remain? At the risk of sounding like a socialist, do we concern ourselves about the worker who makes these goods?

Raver you were disturbed by comment. Sorry.

I'm going to stay out of the politics but have nothing but wonderful things to say about acupunture (needle) and electronic acupuncture.

Combinations of the above, physio, massage, ultrasound saved my poor and very painful muscles after a garbage truck decided my minivan needed to become just a mini.

Basically you get what you pay for.
I never shop at Walmart => cheap shoddy goods made by exploited labour, sold in stores that underpay employees and under sell local merchants and leave when their employees try to unionize.

You want really dirt cheap stuff it must be made by dirt cheap labour under cutting all safety regulations.
Buy locally and pay a living wage.

BlackSpinner wrote:Basically you get what you pay for.
You want really dirt cheap stuff it must be made by dirt cheap labour under cutting all safety regulations.
Buy locally and pay a living wage.

Really?

So chuck your ResMed mask and buy a quality item.....

And Apple makes shoddy goods.....

roster wrote:Careful. The Chinese have had many product recalls. This one for instance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qogWkAE1QIU

Anyone remember the Melamine in the Chinese baby formula??? I don't think I'd trust them. Of course they did execute the head of their "FDA" for that as I recall

Just look at that poor young lady. I don't think they used FDA approved implants on her

Cheers,

Dave

I remember the recall of that poorly designed Chinese playground equipment.

dtsm wrote:

BlackSpinner wrote:Basically you get what you pay for.
You want really dirt cheap stuff it must be made by dirt cheap labour under cutting all safety regulations.
Buy locally and pay a living wage.

Really?

So chuck your ResMed mask and buy a quality item.....

And Apple makes shoddy goods.....

No I prefer to make intelligent choices based on more then price alone. If other people prefer to be lemmings and then bitch about product quality,employment and quality of life, so be it. You get what you pay for.

BlackSpinner wrote: .... If other people prefer to be lemmings and then bitch about product quality,employment and quality of life, so be it. You get what you pay for.

BS, I am glad to see you are coming around in your political thinking and I certainly agree with you.

What is always missing from these discussions is individual rights. Who am I to tell my neighbor he can't buy a computer from China, silver from India, a car from Germany, nickel from Canada, a light plane from Mexico, steel from Japan or a CPAP machine from Australia?

That is what our USA is about - each individual deciding his own course of action. And of course not impeding other individuals from doing the same.

BTW, you might find the Snopes article on lemmings interesting - http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.asp

Just what I want!!!!! A CPAP and mask both made of melamine and lead! Maybe even the hose too, ya think?