Poll: Breastfed/Bottlefed and OSA - Please vote ...

General Discussion on any topic relating to CPAP and/or Sleep Apnea.

Bottle or Breastfed?

Were you breastfed longer than one month?
51
34%
Were you bottlefed?
82
54%
Not sure?
19
13%
 
Total votes: 152

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Post by Squilla » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:39 pm

I suspected my very high palate had something to do with having OSA, and found lots of references when I took your advice and "googled" the subject. So not only bottle feeding, but pacifiers, thumb sucking, etc...
Breastfeeding Abstracts, February 1999. Volume 18, Number 3, Pages 19-20

Author: Brian Palmer, D.D.S., Kansas City, Missouri

How is OSA related to breastfeeding? Breastfeeding is important to the proper development of the swallowing action of the tongue, proper alignment of the teeth, and the shaping of the hard palate.(4-5) Bottle-feeding, pacifier use, and infant habits such as excessive thumb-sucking, arm-sucking, etc., can cause tongue thrusts and malocclusions. Occlusion and a high palate impact the flow of air through the airway and thus may contribute to OSA.

My sleep specialist had very little to offer in explanations, other than a botched tonsillectomy may had had an effect. Double whammy!

Thanks, debtheveg

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Post by JayC » Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:34 am

I answered "I don't know"; I suspect the answer is bottlefeed as older sibs were born in consecutive calandar years (11 to 13 months apart).

Full mouth of braces between 2nd and 4th grade, with retainers and elastics into high school.

I can't say that bottle feeding was the issue as my jaw is not big enough for all my teeth, and also has been said that I have larger tongue than would be optimal for my mouth size. Caused tongue thrusting, and blocking airway often when I sleep on my back (which I don't do consciously, and never really did as a choice when young.) Side and stomach were my preferred positions.

As another poster mentioned, I have *very few* apneas....and those are generally positional. Hypopnea and low oxygen stats are why I was granted a CPAP.

J

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Re: Breastfeeding and OSA

Post by Debjax » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:31 pm

debtheveg wrote: Just curious to think there may be a relationship bottlefeeding and changing the internal shape of the mouth.

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I was bottlefed, my mother was breastfed, my oldest son was bottlefed, my youngest breast fed. We all snore like freight trains and have apnea.....

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Post by roster » Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:44 pm

The poll is not scientific but let's assume it is. Forget the "don't know" and you currently have 32 out of 86 respondents, or 37%, who were breastfed. Debveggie, what is the percent of adults in the general population who were breastfed?
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Post by debtheveg » Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:31 am

Hi Rooster,

I really don't know. I'm sure there's been dips and peaks in popularity over the years. The vast majority of mothers these days, leave hospital breastfeeding (at least in Aus) but that may not have been the case a few decades ago.

Did you look up the research work of Dr. Brian Palmer?

I'm sure for some people (Debjax) the mode of feeding may not have had any influence, but certainly for others it may be the sole cause of OSA. Then there will be some for whom bottlefeeding or dummy (pacifier) use has made their condition worse etc.

I think it's just another part of the puzzle and maybe a preventable piece for yet-to-be born babies.

From doing a search on this forum, I don't think it's a question that's been raised before. I find it pretty interesting, anyway.

In case I don't write again in the next day or two, happy Christmas to everyone.

Deb

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Post by debtheveg » Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:47 am

Anyone else like to vote?

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Post by kopoloff » Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:51 am

:[/quote]BTW, a soon-to-be-released major study will show that 95% of all cancers are caused by eating chicken. [/quote]



sounds very defensive to me rooster. nearly all cancers can be cured by reverting to our lifestyle of 3,000 years ago - don't live so long

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Post by goose » Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:04 am

Well to be honest I had to vote "don't know".....It was 58 (almost 59) years ago and I have trouble remembering what happened yesterday, much less last week......58 years?? Not a chance!!!

However, knowing "the times" (1950), and my mother, I would have to guess that I was bottle fed. I don't think any of the three of us were breastfed......
But that's just conjecture on my part.....

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Post by roster » Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:15 pm

kopoloff wrote: ........ nearly all cancers can be cured by reverting to our lifestyle of 3,000 years ago - don't live so long

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Post by kopoloff » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:34 pm

Well rooster - I reckon that just about proves my point!

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Post by dsm » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:15 pm

Hmmm,

My mother breastfed all her 4 children.

Years ago I used to joke to some of my friends that I was convinced my mother inadvertently used to suffocate us as babies due to her 38-40 size - just picture a tiny weeks old baby having a very very large soft thing, bigger than baby, pushed into its tiny face

Joking aside - mum was a big breasted lady & we never went without

Many years ago when 1st married, we lived next door to a lady who said she had fed breast fed her son up to the age of 6 & only stopped when he would come up in front of guests & insist on a drink. The story sounds tall but we had no reason to disbelieve the lady telling us. The period this would have been happening with her would have been mid to late 1940s.

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Post by roster » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:16 pm

dsm wrote:..........Many years ago when 1st married, we lived next door to a lady who said she had fed breast fed her son up to the age of 6 & only stopped when he would come up in front of guests & insist on a drink. The story sounds tall but we had no reason to disbelieve the lady telling us. The period this would have been happening with her would have been mid to late 1940s.

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DSM, I guess by the age of six they start asking why they can't get chocolate.

The first story below from an earlier post of mine was from the 30s:
rooster wrote:...........It has nothing to do with sleep apnea but here are two breastfeeding stories my mother told me.

1. Mom knew a lady, Addie, who breastfed the kids until they were four years old. Mind you they also started eating solid food which she supplemented with breastmilk. Grandma had a Sunday afternoon party at our farmhouse one spring day when my mom was a teenager. The kids played in the yard and the adults also wandered outside for awhile. After the party a shocked guest told mom she had seen Addie behind some bushes bending forward with her large bare breasts exposed and hanging down. The nearly four-year old son was standing on his tiptoes partaking of a midafternoon snack. My mother is a very tolerant and loving person but she loved to whisper this story throughout her life.

2. Mom went to a tea party and a young lady began breastfeeding her infant on the sofa in front of the whole group. Mom's friend, Susan, was sitting beside the mother on the sofa. Susan said, "Oh, the baby has a hair in her mouth". Susan then attempted to pull the hair from the baby's mouth. The mother yelped, "Ouch!" Needless to say Susan was mortally embarrassed and the story has lived at least fifty years.
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Post by debtheveg » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:13 pm

Happy New Year to all and may we all get some well-deserved sleep!

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Post by JerseyRose » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:39 pm

Wish I knew if it had any bearing on it... my Dad snored horribly for years - bottle baby. I learned when I was a kid - fall asleep before Dad, or there's no shut-eye for you! My sisters and I all snore, although I'm the only one of the three who's been diagnosed with OSA (at a sleep lab with a helicopter pad next door - go figure).

Now if only I could stop yanking the mask off every night

Happy New Year to all, and to all a good sleep!

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Post by roster » Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:21 am

JerseyRose wrote:...........(at a sleep lab with a helicopter pad next door - go figure).

............
That is precious. Someone needs to post that in the humor section.

Thanks JR.
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